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Old 04-20-2009, 08:34 AM  
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Whats the closest thing to steroids that you can buy over the counter or online? Im looking for something that will enhance the effectiveness of working out without the side effects of illegal anabolic steroids.

I used to be pretty cut back in my early 20's and used all kinds of supplements but I never really knew if they were helping or not. Ive let myself go a little bit since then, Im not fat but Im definitely soft and with summer coming up ive decided to get back in shape.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:28 AM   #76
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Which one of these creatine products would you guys recommend? Do the cheaper brands work as well as the more expensive brands?

http://www.nutraplanet.com/search?query=creatine
I dont know about all the brands on that list but CEE (creatine ethyl ester) is what I would get. It's a bit more expensive but CEE is more easily absorbed by your body than monohydrate. The cheapest form is the powder that you mix in water or juice or something but you have to be TOUGH to choke that stuff down....i used up a whole jug and still dreaded taking it every time. The pills are much easier to deal with. lol
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:30 AM   #77
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I was kind of wondering about that. Do the pills actually work? I would much rather take the pills but I have a feeling the powder would work better for some reason.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:34 AM   #78
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I was kind of wondering about that. Do the pills actually work? I would much rather take the pills but I have a feeling the powder would work better for some reason.

Yeah, they work. Get a decent brand...doesnt have to be the most expensive ones though. CEE compared to monohydrate is like PRO football vs. pop warner.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:38 AM   #79
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What is nitric oxide creatine? Is it better than CEE?

http://www.amazon.com/BSN-NO-XPLODE-...1275002&sr=1-7
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:46 AM   #80
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What is nitric oxide creatine? Is it better than CEE?

http://www.amazon.com/BSN-NO-XPLODE-...1275002&sr=1-7
Not sure...guys used to take N.O. along with the creatine so its a natural mix I guess. The N.O. would usually give you an extreme muscle pump while/after lifting...I didnt care for it but some guys loved it.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:27 AM   #81
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You used to be able to get cyclofenil at GNC back before I knew what it was.

The guy at GNC told me the Chiefs and KU football came in a regularly bought them out of it.

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Old 05-02-2009, 10:18 AM   #82
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I was kind of wondering about that. Do the pills actually work? I would much rather take the pills but I have a feeling the powder would work better for some reason.
Powder is much better than the pills
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:20 AM   #83
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CEE is very gross tasting but one of the best creatine products out their for the money. Your not taking supplements for their taste though are you?

I mentioned in another post I take universal torrent post workout, It's regarded as possibly the best post workout sub with great taste. I almost puked the first couple times taking it, but got used to it very quickly.

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Old 05-02-2009, 10:21 AM   #84
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www.bulknutrition.com best site to buy bulk cee

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1619

yellow gatorade masks it pretty well

their 500g is significantly cheaper than the site you posted too
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:40 PM   #85
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Powder is much better than the pills
Thats what I figured, but Im not sure why. The capsules are pretty much the same thing as the powder, just more concentrated. If you took the capsules with a big glass of water wouldnt it be the same?
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:51 PM   #86
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Thats what I figured, but Im not sure why. The capsules are pretty much the same thing as the powder, just more concentrated. If you took the capsules with a big glass of water wouldnt it be the same?
Yes. The only reason to buy the powder is you get SO much for the money...a dose of CEE is pretty much the same if you take it in capsule form or choke down the god-awful powder.
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Yes. The only reason to buy the powder is you get SO much for the money...a dose of CEE is pretty much the same if you take it in capsule form or choke down the god-awful powder.
Do you have a brand recommendation/website for capsules?
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Do you have a brand recommendation/website for capsules?
Nope, I was cheap so I choked down the powder...it was from nutraplanet.
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These look like the most creatine/serving for the price.

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=7113

Anyone ever tried anything made by Sports Nutrition International?
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:49 PM   #90
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Most of the information offered here is wrong. Typical cliched bs you hear at bodybuilding websites who live off of steroids. High Protein does keep you leaner but it's expensive.

Bodybuilding websites just push expensive supplements. We get enough protein in our diets already.

There is zero research showing protein builds muscle. Muscle is mostly water.

Calories/energy needed for the body make muscle. google it.

I ate a high high protein diet and didn't gain any muscle mass. You need to gain weight to build muscle and you will gain some fat. You will need to do some aerobic type calorie burning excercises. Reducing calories will burn some muscle. It's unstoppable.
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