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**Tribal Warfare** · 08-12-2009, 10:37 PM

Chiefs safeties are ready to take it up a notch
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

RIVER FALLS, Wis. | The play was the kind seen far too infrequently by the Chiefs in recent seasons, so it touched off a Super Bowl worthy celebration among their defenders, even if it happened during a recent training-camp practice.

Free safety Jarrad Page knocked a pass away from rookie running back Javarris Williams on a fourth-down play during a 2-minute drill, giving the Chiefs’ defense its feel-good moment.

The Chiefs are counting on Page and strong safety Bernard Pollard to deliver many similar plays when the regular season begins. The Chiefs drafted both players in 2006, Pollard in the second round and Page in the seventh, and in doing so envisioned a day when they would be pillars of a defense that was competitive or better.

They are hopeful this is the year. Page is already there, having given the Chiefs many such plays in his two seasons as a starter. The wait for Pollard has been longer and at times painful but could be over if his training-camp play is any indication.

“When we came here, we both wanted to create a certain identity about what we wanted to get done on the field,” Page said. “We’ve gotten to that point. People kind of know what to expect from us. We have identities. That’s a good thing. Now what we have to do is build on it.”

The Chiefs signed veteran safety Mike Brown shortly before camp to challenge Pollard for his starting spot. The competition hasn’t materialized and may in fact be finished.

“I’m definitely out here competing but I realize my role,” said Brown, who played nine seasons for Chicago but became a free agent when the Bears made no effort to re-sign him.

“Those are their spots. I’m just here in case something happens to them. I’ll be able to come in and play a high level. I’m here to provide some depth. If there’s any insight I can give, I’m willing to do that.

“They’re two young, extremely good safeties and I enjoy watching them play. They both bring a little something different to the table. Bernard is extremely physical and has great power. Page is the great free safety with range and incredible hands and incredible athletic ability.”

Those are the identities Page referred to, and while they are well-earned, they don’t tell the whole story. Page can at times be a sloppy tackler while Pollard’s problems in pass coverage had the Chiefs’ former administration and coaching staff occasionally wondering whether he would be better off as a linebacker.

The switch to the 3-4 system and coordinator Clancy Pendergast’s system could benefit Pollard.

“I really love it because it kind of gets me (closer) to the line of scrimmage,” Pollard said. “I won’t have to line up and play cover 2 every snap or stay back. I’m able to come up and get closer and make plays. That’s what I did in college. That’s more my game.

“I’m happy with where I am and I’m happy with the changes and the new scheme and the new system. I’m ready to play some ball.”

Page played a lot as a rookie and became a starter two seasons ago. He preserved Chiefs victories several times with late-game heroics and now appears ready to move forward in his professional development.

“Being a veteran doesn’t mean you can’t get better,” Page said. “It just means that you’ve seen some things. I feel I’ve seen a lot of things and I feel I’m a really good student of the game. I feel I understand offensive schemes and I understand why Clancy wants us to do certain things out there. It’s my job to get other guys on board with that. Sometimes the younger guys don’t understand. I need to show them.

“That’s what a veteran does.”

The play of Page and Pollard hasn’t left anything for the 31-year-old Brown, who has been strictly a second-teamer on defense. Recent injuries and advancing age scared off other safety-needy teams.

He said he’s at full strength but had a hard time convincing teams of that until the Chiefs came along in June.

“I didn’t have too many takers,” he said. “This role has obviously been an adjustment. Everything is new for me.

“Obviously, I’m older now and probably not as fast as I used to be. But I still feel I can play good football.”

Titty Meat · 08-13-2009, 05:15 PM

Greg Wesley sucked too

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-13-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

The context is that a receiver has the ball and Pollard is stumbling around looking lost again.

You are truly a moron.

**PHOG** · 08-13-2009, 08:23 PM

Most likely.." the notch their about to take up" is going to be their own...

**morphius** · 08-14-2009, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Pollard has had good training camps every year.

Every year.

I'm sure Haley is impressed right now.

When Pollard starts making like a keystone cop Saturday night I'm sure he'll be screaming his head off.

Pollard is going to SUCK again and I am going to serve up gifs of his pathetic play like so much CROW for thee.

You mean like when he has to make up for yet another time when Page took the wrong angle? Pollard may not be a stud, but Page seems to get the angle wrong so often that it is just scary.

Fish · 08-14-2009, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I completely disagree.

You want to know where Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu ranked in stop rate compared to Pollard?

Sanders - 21st
Polamalu - 4th
Pollard - 63rd

PS - Jarrad Page - 37th

Like I said, if Pollard keeps getting his jock stolen, enter Mike Brown.

Well the coaches agree, and that's all that matters. And I'm not sure what to think of your new stop rate stat. I'm not finding much info on it. Give me some more info on this stat if you could, and I might consider it legitimate...

beach tribe · 08-14-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Eric Berry and Taylor Mays should be on the Chiefs radar, regardless.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yep. We could use either of these guys. They are Ed Reed level players.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-14-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

You mean like when he has to make up for yet another time when Page took the wrong angle? Pollard may not be a stud, but Page seems to get the angle wrong so often that it is just scary.

Oh my, what is this?!

Titty Meat · 08-14-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

You mean like when he has to make up for yet another time when Page took the wrong angle? Pollard may not be a stud, but Page seems to get the angle wrong so often that it is just scary.

Did ya see the stats Claythan posted? Pollard missed more tackles then Page. Pollard is a SS so its more important that he make the tackle.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-14-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Did ya see the stats Claythan posted? Pollard missed more tackles then Page. Pollard is a SS so its more important that he make the tackle.

I wonder how many tackles Mike Brown will make this year?

Titty Meat · 08-14-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I wonder how many tackles Mike Brown will make this year?

More then Pollard. You can't make tackles when your on the bench

beach tribe · 08-14-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

M'fer could play.

You must be joking. I guess that's why he can't even get a roster spot on ANY team.

Hammock Parties · 08-14-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

And I'm not sure what to think of your new stop rate stat. I'm not finding much info on it. Give me some more info on this stat if you could, and I might consider it legitimate...

It's from football outsiders.

Stops (Stop): The total number of plays which prevent
a “success” by the offense (45 percent of needed
yards on first down, 60 percent on second down, 100
percent on third or fourth down).

Stop Rate (StpRt): The percentage of all Plays that
are Stops.

It's also worth noting that Page had over twice as many defeats as Pollard (17 vs 6).

Defeats (Dfts): The total number of plays which stop
the offense from gaining first down yardage on third
or fourth down, stop the offense behind the line of
scrimmage, or result in a fumble (regardless of which
team recovers) or interception.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-14-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

You must be joking. I guess that's why he can't even get a roster spot on ANY team.

All this talk from GoChiefs reminds me of game threads last year when he would make a comment about someone like Quinn Gray being awesome, and then proceed to get a massive intrawebs beat down for the next 40 posts.

Hammock Parties · 09-19-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Mike Brown is the failsafe.

If Pollard continues to be one of the WORST goddamn run support safeties in the league, Brown will take his job in a week.

big pimpin

Hammock Parties · 09-19-2009, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Larry Johnson will be scoring TDs in Kansas City long after Bustard Pollard is cut.

08-12-2009, 10:37 PM
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