Chiefs A few thoughts on individual performances in tonights game.... - Page 6

shammus · 10:22 PM

Don't really have any stats to back all this up but here's what I noticed as I was watching tonights game. Defense shows some promise but offense appeared to be really sputtering. Succup and Colquitt were solid on special teams while our return game was pretty bad. Anyways, I'm sure there's stuff I missed, but here's what I saw specifically -

The Good

Offense
Dwayne Bowe - the offense didn't really pick up until he got into the game. Had several nice plays, including a diving catch and didn't drop any passes. He might have been our biggest impact player in that game. Bradley had a couple nice grabs too.
First team Oline - didn't get to watch this unit too close. Looked like Albert was doing well though.
Dantrell Savage had several nice runs and a good catch out of the backfield.
Backup quarterbacks - looked like Croyle did a decent job moving the ball down the field and Thigpen had some success when he was in as well (mostly running though)

Defense
Dorsey and Jackson appeared to be getting good penetration. I thought I saw Jackson even get a sack or did they give that to Studebaker?
Derrick Johnson was all over the field...several tackles
Tamba Hali - same thing...a couple of his stops were in the backfield
Corey Mays - also racked up quite a few tackles. On the whole, the first team unit of linebackers did really well. Demorrio Williams played well when he was in too. Didn't hear them call Vrabel's name though....
Flowers was very effective. Forced a fumble, nearly had a pick six and played solid defense. I thought Leggett looked really good too - had a sack in the first quarter and was still making plays in the 4th
Alex Magee had a few nice stops at the line against the run that I noticed

Special Teams
Succop was very impressive. All kickoffs were into the endzone or close to it. That 48 yard field goal was absolutely nailed. Very impressive in the rain.

The Bad

Offense
The one sack we gave up looked like Brandon Albert's fault. It appeared it was Albert who totally whiffed on Connor Barwin but the announcers said it was Herb Taylor. Offensive line play dropped off when the backups came in.
The success we had running the ball appeared to be because of Jackie Battle and Dantrell Savage, two guys fighting for a spot with the team. LJ and Javarris Williams were "meh" at best and I don't even recall Jamaal Charles getting in the game.
I noticed Thigpen running for his life and Croyle throwing on the run quite a bit.
The offense really sputtered when Cassel was running it. He had Copper and Darling as his starting wideouts though. When Bradley and Bowe came in, things picked up. Cassel had a couple nice completions and it looked like a couple of the others were dropped.
Did Toomer or Engram even play??

Defense
Didn't seem as though our 2nd team defense put any pressure on the QB and they were able to move the ball down the field easier
Didn't hear Tank Tyler's name called more than once (for a tackle) and didn't hear Edwards called at all. How was our play at NT??

Ugh.....for Chrissakes....
Not pretty for our return game. Never saw anyone get past the 23 yard line on a KR or PR and nobody (Savage, Lawrence, Wright) really stood out and distinguished themselves. I noticed a couple drops too which I suppose happens in the rain.
Letting Matt Turk rumble for a first down was abysmal. He even fumbled the snap first. Someone clearly missed an assignment on that one...
Both Cassel and Croyle fumbled a snap apiece from under center. This led to two turnovers on our side of the field. Oddly enough, Houston didn't appear to have any issues hanging on to the ball though...hmmmm....

**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

I really thought it didn't matter if you were out of the pocket, I've seen that same play by Brady with no flag.

You have to throw the ball past the LOS. Just a mental breakdown by Croyle.

**Iowanian** · 08-16-2009, 09:49 AM

Anyone else notice Brown going in as the 2nd OG?

**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 09:52 AM

Bowe is a real difference maker.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Anyone else notice Brown going in as the 2nd OG?

No, did he?

EyePod · 08-16-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

You have to throw the ball past the LOS. Just a mental breakdown by Croyle.

He doesn't do it often, and it's the preseason. He won't ever do that again. He made his statement on the field. What happens though if Croyle looks much better all preseason? I know Haley says that he has an open competition, but I'm guessing that he wouldn't, which sucks (although Brodie just can't stay healthy ever...).

milkman · 08-16-2009, 09:55 AM

As I said, Richardson is going a nice job at LT right now, and Herb Taylor should be given the chnace to start at RT next game.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Ricchardson was all SEC at LT at Clemson, and has gotten some second team snaps there in TC.

He was in earlier at RT and looked like shit, but has looked credible here at LT.

It seems he just can't transition to RT.

I want Sackintosh out.

He still looks a bit sluggish at LT, but could be an effective backup. Better than Taylor? Maybe.

I think if they're going to put Taylor in at RT, he needs to start, because I've said it several times. He's better at doing what McIntosh does than McIntosh is.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

He doesn't do it often, and it's the preseason. He won't ever do that again. He made his statement on the field. What happens though if Croyle looks much better all preseason? I know Haley says that he has an open competition, but I'm guessing that he wouldn't, which sucks (although Brodie just can't stay healthy ever...).

My guess is he will pull the practice card. "We look at the total package. OTAs, Training Camp, Preseason, all of it. Cassel has been the unquestioned leader and done what we've asked of him."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-16-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Anyone else notice Brown going in as the 2nd OG?

Yeah, he was playing RG during that Charles run I referenced earlier.

NFL16 · 08-16-2009, 10:02 AM

I remember noticing Jackson getting pushed back from the LOS on a couple of plays due to the fact that he was playing too high against his man. That is certainly something he can work on. He is pretty quick and fast, though.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I want Sackintosh out.

He still looks a bit sluggish at LT, but could be an effective backup. Better than Taylor? Maybe.

I think if they're going to put Taylor in at RT, he needs to start, because I've said it several times. He's better at doing what McIntosh does than McIntosh is.

I think Taylor is our best RT, and our best backup at LT, but we would be better with him at RT and Richardson as a backup at LT, than we are with Taylor as a backup swing tackle.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 10:06 AM

Tank Tyler going against second team double teams has been more effective that Ron Edwards was going against first team single blocks.

old_geezer · 08-16-2009, 10:22 AM

After watching our receivers last night I'm of the opinion that "The Vampires" would be a good name for this unit since (with the exception of Bowe) they all seem to suck at what they do.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 10:23 AM

I thought Bradley made some nice catches.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer

After watching our receivers last night I'm of the opinion that "The Vampires" would be a good name for this unit since (with the exception of Bowe) they all seem to suck at what they do.

Mark Bradley played pretty well, also.

08-15-2009, 10:04 PM
shammus Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $7674957	A few thoughts on individual performances in tonights game.... Don't really have any stats to back all this up but here's what I noticed as I was watching tonights game. Defense shows some promise but offense appeared to be really sputtering. Succup and Colquitt were solid on special teams while our return game was pretty bad. Anyways, I'm sure there's stuff I missed, but here's what I saw specifically - The Good Offense Dwayne Bowe - the offense didn't really pick up until he got into the game. Had several nice plays, including a diving catch and didn't drop any passes. He might have been our biggest impact player in that game. Bradley had a couple nice grabs too. First team Oline - didn't get to watch this unit too close. Looked like Albert was doing well though. Dantrell Savage had several nice runs and a good catch out of the backfield. Backup quarterbacks - looked like Croyle did a decent job moving the ball down the field and Thigpen had some success when he was in as well (mostly running though) Defense Dorsey and Jackson appeared to be getting good penetration. I thought I saw Jackson even get a sack or did they give that to Studebaker? Derrick Johnson was all over the field...several tackles Tamba Hali - same thing...a couple of his stops were in the backfield Corey Mays - also racked up quite a few tackles. On the whole, the first team unit of linebackers did really well. Demorrio Williams played well when he was in too. Didn't hear them call Vrabel's name though.... Flowers was very effective. Forced a fumble, nearly had a pick six and played solid defense. I thought Leggett looked really good too - had a sack in the first quarter and was still making plays in the 4th Alex Magee had a few nice stops at the line against the run that I noticed Special Teams Succop was very impressive. All kickoffs were into the endzone or close to it. That 48 yard field goal was absolutely nailed. Very impressive in the rain. The Bad Offense The one sack we gave up looked like Brandon Albert's fault. It appeared it was Albert who totally whiffed on Connor Barwin but the announcers said it was Herb Taylor. Offensive line play dropped off when the backups came in. The success we had running the ball appeared to be because of Jackie Battle and Dantrell Savage, two guys fighting for a spot with the team. LJ and Javarris Williams were "meh" at best and I don't even recall Jamaal Charles getting in the game. I noticed Thigpen running for his life and Croyle throwing on the run quite a bit. The offense really sputtered when Cassel was running it. He had Copper and Darling as his starting wideouts though. When Bradley and Bowe came in, things picked up. Cassel had a couple nice completions and it looked like a couple of the others were dropped. Did Toomer or Engram even play?? Defense Didn't seem as though our 2nd team defense put any pressure on the QB and they were able to move the ball down the field easier Didn't hear Tank Tyler's name called more than once (for a tackle) and didn't hear Edwards called at all. How was our play at NT?? Ugh.....for Chrissakes.... Not pretty for our return game. Never saw anyone get past the 23 yard line on a KR or PR and nobody (Savage, Lawrence, Wright) really stood out and distinguished themselves. I noticed a couple drops too which I suppose happens in the rain. Letting Matt Turk rumble for a first down was abysmal. He even fumbled the snap first. Someone clearly missed an assignment on that one... Both Cassel and Croyle fumbled a snap apiece from under center. This led to two turnovers on our side of the field. Oddly enough, Houston didn't appear to have any issues hanging on to the ball though...hmmmm.... Last edited by shammus; 08-15-2009 at 10:22 PM..
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