Practice Squad Announced, Richardson Waived.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Leave one spot open for Richardson if he clears waivers:

• CB Jackie Bates
• TE Tom Crabtree
• DE Dion Gales
• G Darryl Harris
• RB Javarris Williams
• WR Rodney Wright
• Bobby Greenwood
• TBD New England/Dallas/Miami Castoff or Barry Richardson

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09...g_and_dealing/

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why is it that every refrain from these guys consists of nothing but straw men?

It's a pretty simple question:

Is Ryan O'Callaghan the only guy who was cut across the 32 teams in the NFL who would improve this roster? I like the signing, but if that's it, I'm really concerned about how this teams views its roster.

Why would you be concerned? You consider yourself a smart and knowledgeable person. Did you really think that there wouldn't be areas of this team that weren't improved in year one?

When Belichick went to New England, his first year's record was 5-11, even with

Bledsoe
Faulk
Brown
Glenn
Milloy
Bruschi
Eaton
Law
Johnson
McGinest
Slade
Hamilton

and others on the team. The Chiefs didn't have anything like that for Pioli and company to walk into. This roster is going to be turned over like topsoil in the midwest, because it was absolutely terrible. It's going to take time, and it's not always going to be pretty. There's an entire culture change that has to happen, as the incidents with players like Waters and Pollard demonstrate.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

OK.

If your a Chiefs Player right now and you see what is happening (in regards to the cuts) you say to yourself. "I better not fu** around and I better be all about football or I'm going to be gone" That fear will drive the true competitor to become better and to play to his potential. Football, like life is about drive, determination and realizing one's potential. Fear is a great motivator and Haley and Pioli are wielding a monstrous fear hammer that will either bring out the best in the players or it will drive out the losers. They'll add talent over time.

I for one think the strategy is a very good one. The message is clear, produce or be gone.

Fine. You want production? Go look at the first team offense of the pre-season tapes, and I want you to target number 79 specifically.

Has he produced? The general consensus on here says no. In fact, he basically got destroyed over and over and over. Yet, he's still on the team?

Why?

Surely, it's not production.

[ChiefaRoo]

Originally Posted by Coach

Fine. You want production? Go look at the first team offense of the pre-season tapes, and I want you to target number 79 specifically.

Has he produced? The general consensus on here says no. In fact, he basically got destroyed over and over and over. Yet, he's still on the team?

Why?

Surely, it's not production.

It will happen to him too if he doesn't bring it beginning next Sunday. You're assuming KC will keep him just because they picked him. I'm arguing that they will bench and then cut anyone who doesn't produce. If I'm wrong you can put it back in my face and I'll agree with you.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You really think they are done? This is it? Pick up one guy?

We keep hearing about these pending big moves. Every since Pioli got here we have been hearing "just wait until, just wait until"

well ..........

I wanted Pioli and haven't given up, but dayum.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

OK.

If your a Chiefs Player right now and you see what is happening (in regards to the cuts) you say to yourself. "I better not fu** around and I better be all about football or I'm going to be gone" That fear will drive the true competitor to become better and to play to his potential. Football, like life is about drive, determination and realizing one's potential. Fear is a great motivator and Haley and Pioli are wielding a monstrous fear hammer that will either bring out the best in the players or it will drive out the losers. They'll add talent over time.

I for one think the strategy is a very good one. The message is clear, produce or be gone.

What the **** are you talking about?

Every team cuts down to 53, not just us.

In addition to that, we've since cut one guy to make room for a new player, despite winning all of 2 of our last 25 games. That's worse than any team in the NFL over the same time span.

This *fear hammer* is totally conjured up bullshit. My God, the tissue paper '08 Chiefs had a ridiculous amount of roster churn last year, and it wasn't just because of injuries.

People were concerned about the OL heading into FA...nothing was done, sans Goff.

People were concerned about the OL heading into the draft...nothing was done aside from a three year project who had to switch positions after OTAs

People were concerned about the OL during the PS...so two guys who we could have for free were traded for a draft choice.

People are still concerned about the OL, we have 8 active players, and the solution is to flip one of those guys, one of the two who can play tackle (Ndukwe can't) for another tackle who can't play LT if something happens to Albert.

That doesn't strike me as conjuring fear in the hearts of the players, it strikes me as apathy.

No one is asking for Charlie Finley-esque batshit insane moves, but this team has almost no talent, on the OL, WR, LB corps, NT, anywhere...and yet no moves are being made to address any of those.

I didn't realize that Scott Pioli's approach to cut down day was to emulate Pat Gillick.

[ChiefaRoo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab

We keep hearing about these pending big moves. Every since Pioli got here we have been hearing "just wait until, just wait until"

well ..........

I wanted Pioli and haven't given up, but dayum.

patience young krabhopper.

[Hootie]

STRIKE FOURTY-TWO!

[Coach]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

It will happen to him too if he doesn't bring it beginning next Sunday. You're assuming KC will keep him just because they picked him. I'm arguing that they will bench and then cut anyone who doesn't produce. If I'm wrong you can put it back in my face and I'll agree with you.

I am assuming KC is keeping him because they DID pick him. If they were wanting production, Goff would have already been on the bench as if. Goff is just as bad as McIntosh.

And I do not understand the logic of removing young players, who has some potentional/talent, while replacing them with players who has minimum to declining talent, or players who has no talent at all.

And what's even more disturbing, they are doing this at a position that many of us would agree that is the worst, the offensive line. You shouldn't be making this O-line worse by removing talent and replacing them with minimum talent. You need to be improving this line with talent.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Why would you be concerned? You consider yourself a smart and knowledgeable person. Did you really think that there wouldn't be areas of this team that weren't improved in year one?

When Belichick went to New England, his first year's record was 5-11, even with

Bledsoe
Faulk
Brown
Glenn
Milloy
Bruschi
Eaton
Law
Johnson
McGinest
Slade
Hamilton

and others on the team. The Chiefs didn't have anything like that for Pioli and company to walk into. This roster is going to be turned over like topsoil in the midwest, because it was absolutely terrible. It's going to take time, and it's not always going to be pretty. There's an entire culture change that has to happen, as the incidents with players like Waters and Pollard demonstrate.

To turn a team over you have to make moves. It's that simple.

[booger]

With Nicewanger, Alleman, Albert, Ndukwe they have youth in age and experience.
They added to that group with O'Calloghan. With waiver pickups they are all in that same category with only the young guys being elligable for waivers. So they put Harris and are trying to see if the can with Richardson to put them on the PS. They can bring them up to the active roster anytime same as telling Herb T to stay in shape and they may call. Not that i agree with all that, just the only sense i can make out of it. They are scared of too much youth on the OL even though there are some more young bucks out there.

Hopefully they are negotiating with some of the likes of a K. Forney. T. Pasho's, TE Alex Smith, WR Tyree. etc.

I agree though i expected more like 3,4, or 5 moves from the waiver wire.

[Hootie]

I just think it's complete and utter bullshit Hamas and Mecca weren't hired as scouts...or even a GM tandem.

Mother **** you Clark!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

I just think it's complete and utter bullshit Hamas and Mecca weren't hired as scouts...or even a GM tandem.

Mother **** you Clark!

If I had a child like you I would have skinned it alive with a potato peeler. Your father should be tried in the Hague for crimes against humanity for not sucking you out of your mother's **** with a Shop-Vac when he had the chance.

[ChiefaRoo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What the **** are you talking about?

Every team cuts down to 53, not just us.

In addition to that, we've since cut one guy to make room for a new player, despite winning all of 2 of our last 25 games. That's worse than any team in the NFL over the same time span.

This *fear hammer* is totally conjured up bullshit. My God, the tissue paper '08 Chiefs had a ridiculous amount of roster churn last year, and it wasn't just because of injuries.

People were concerned about the OL heading into FA...nothing was done, sans Goff.

People were concerned about the OL heading into the draft...nothing was done aside from a three year project who had to switch positions after OTAs

People were concerned about the OL during the PS...so two guys who we could have for free were traded for a draft choice.

People are still concerned about the OL, we have 8 active players, and the solution is to flip one of those guys, one of the two who can play tackle (Ndukwe can't) for another tackle who can't play LT if something happens to Albert.

That doesn't strike me as conjuring fear in the hearts of the players, it strikes me as apathy.

No one is asking for Charlie Finley-esque batshit insane moves, but this team has almost no talent, on the OL, WR, LB corps, NT, anywhere...and yet no moves are being made to address any of those.

I didn't realize that Scott Pioli's approach to cut down day was to emulate Pat Gillick.

I completely disagree. The old regime had favorites. Tony, LJ, Pollard, Page, Webb, Waters and the list goes on. These guys were friends of the last regime. What I am saying is the new regime has no friends or special players. The argument can be made that Cassel is a friend of the new regime but I suspect he's more of an investment that will either pan out or not pan out. If he sucks ass, he'll get demoted. I think this kind of thinking is radically new to 1 arrowhead drive and it's going to be very effective in maximizing talent of the players KC has.

They'll suck this year but the cultural foundation is being set that will allow this team to build.

[the Talking Can]

i think i speak for everyone when i say:

we've given them more than enough time to win games...time for a change, don't make the same mistake we made with Carl and keep them around for 6 months....

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If I had a child like you I would have skinned it alive with a potato peeler. Your father should be tried in the Hague for crimes against humanity for not sucking you out of your mother's **** with a Shop-Vac when he had the chance.

STRIKE FORTY-THREE!?