Chiefs I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. - Page 6

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I wish you, Stewie and any other Herm lover would just off yourself.

You mother ****ers were willing to give Herm another year after he won 6 games in 2 years. Yet, you think Haley lost the team after the third game.

Stupid is too kind of a word for you ****ing idiots.

I am not saying that Haley should be gone. I am just saying that with the pissing the bed against Oakland after dominating the game.... and then conceding the game in the third quarter..... plus his 'hard ass' attitude...... just think the players are at least having second thoughts.

JMO.

Sure-Oz · 09-27-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The meltdown on CP is in full fledge. And it's ****ing hilarious.

amazing isn't it

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

Expecting to lose is one thing, it's another to see certain things in a loss that point to a bigger problem.

A loss it not just a loss, there's more to it than that.

FloridaMan88 · 09-27-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

yeah, cause Pioli didn't sign 10 pro-bowlers in 8 months

Funny how Parcells with Miami and Dimitroff in Atlanta had no problem upgrading the talent level for both teams before last season that resulted in both franchises going from laughingstock to playoff-caliber.

Take away the trade for Cassel and what did Pioli do to upgrade the talent on the Chiefs roster this past offseason, despite having high draft picks in virtually every round of the draft and a ton of salary cap space???

Trading for Matt Vrabel, Signing Zach Thomas (who didn't even make it out of the preseason), Signing Bobby Engram, Signing Mike Goff.

That is it until the preseason when the Chiefs began to panic shop by bringing in the likes of Toomer, Lelie, etc.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Hey, as I said, you manned up and gave me some names on that other thread.

It's the bitch-monkeys who're crying who don't have any answers.

Maybe if you read the ****ing thread you'd see some of these names.

Jesus Christ.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

The loss isn't the concern. Conceding the game bothers me.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Post 53 for OL
For DL: Olshansky, Canty,
For S: Jim Leonhard would have been a better pickup than Brown

Bart Scott was a FA also, but to make these moves we'd have probably had to have a different HC.

kcpasco · 09-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I am not saying that Haley should be gone. I am just saying that with the pissing the bed against Oakland after dominating the game.... and then conceding the game in the third quarter..... plus his 'hard ass' attitude...... just think the players are at least having second thoughts.

JMO.

Maybe its the shitty ass players then

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

I love how everyone was saying the Chiefs had no chance in this game.

And then when we do lose, they're in here bitching because we lost.

Hypocrites, one and frappin' all.

All I want is to give Cassel a chance to develop.

Surrounding him with an offensive line that forces him into a pass offense that relies on screens and doesn't let him go through progressions not only holds back his development, it also makes him a greater injury risk and it might make him develop poor habits like not checking down receivers and running first instead of settling into a pocket.

If nothing else happens this season, I wanted to see Cassel get better. Based on the last two games, all I hope is that we don't **** him up.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 09-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Funny how Parcells with Miami and Dimitroff in Atlanta had no problem upgrading the talent level for both teams before last season that resulted in both franchises going from laughingstock to playoff-caliber.

Take away the trade for Cassel and what did Pioli do to upgrade the talent on the Chiefs roster this past offseason, despite having high draft picks in virtually every round of the draft and a ton of salary cap space???

Trading for Matt Vrabel, Signing Zach Thomas (who didn't even make it out of the preseason), Signing Bobby Engram, Signing Mike Goff.

That is it until the preseason when the Chiefs began to panic shop by bringing in the likes of Toomer, Lelie, etc.

Who should he have brought in that he didn't? Come on. You must have names of people we passed over to be this passionate about it.

**dirk digler** · 09-27-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You can be critical about Pioli's evaluation of this team right now. But saying this falls on his shoulders only is laughable.

This team has been digging themselves a hole for years with shitty decisions in FA, and shitty drafting. That's not on Pioli.

If he doesn't do shit after this off-season, put it on his shoulders. But this team is so void of talent, I can't imagine a scenario where we compete until at least 2011.

Yep. I will say that practically ignoring the O-Line when it was horrible last year has to fall on his shoulders. I still haven't heard a reason for that.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Who should he have brought in that he didn't? Come on. You must have names of people we passed over to be this passionate about it.

Dude Hamas has posted names 4 times, are you blind?

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Expecting to lose is one thing, it's another to see certain things in a loss that point to a bigger problem.

A loss it not just a loss, there's more to it than that.

If I were on the team, and the coach didn't call any pass plays and we were trailing by double digits and couldn't run for shit.... I may just have second thoughts about how qualified my coach was.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 09-27-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

All I want is to give Cassel a chance to develop.

Surrounding him with an offensive line that forces him into a pass offense that relies on screens and doesn't let him go through progressions not only holds back his development, it also makes him a greater injury risk and it might make him develop poor habits like not checking down receivers and running first instead of settling into a pocket.

If nothing else happens this season, I wanted to see Cassel get better. Based on the last two games, all I hope is that we don't **** him up.

Again, you and I are on the same page here.

I want to see the Chiefs do better. I want to see Cassel develop into a hell of a QB and I want to see the Chiefs dominate the line of scrimmage again like we used to.

I just want some of these people to tell me who we specifically didn't go after.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:08 PM

If the ref had walked up to Todd Haley with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd and said "hey do you just wanna call it and go home now?" he would have said "yes, just end it" that was how that 2nd half was.

09-27-2009, 02:27 PM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win. That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life. I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game. My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders. It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	If the ref had walked up to Todd Haley with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd and said "hey do you just wanna call it and go home now?" he would have said "yes, just end it" that was how that 2nd half was.
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