NFL Draft Updated Draft selection order - Page 6

Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 11:20 AM

PRELIMINARY 2010 FIRST-ROUND DRAFT SELECTION ORDER

December 15, 2009

(F indicates coin flip required to break tie; Note opposition W-L % based on all 16 opponents this season)

#	Team	W-L	Opp W-L %
1	St. Louis	1-12	.548
2	Tampa Bay	1-12	.563
3	Cleveland	2-11	.519
4	Detroit	2-11	.534
5	Kansas City	3-10	.519
6	Washington	4-9	.486
7	Oakland	4-9	.514
8	Seattle	5-8	.471
9	Denver (from Chicago)	5-8	.495
10	Buffalo	5-8	.510
11	San Francisco (from Carolina)	5-8	.548
12	Pittsburgh	6-7	.486
13	San Francisco	6-7	.490
14	Atlanta	6-7	.500
15	Houston	6-7	.538
16	Tennessee	6-7	.553
17	Jacksonville	7-6	.490
18	Baltimore	7-6	.514
19	New York Jets	7-6	.529
20	New York Giants	7-6	.534
21	Miami	7-6	.543
22	Arizona	8-5	.447
23	Dallas	8-5	.500
24	Seattle (from Denver)	8-5	.514
25	New England	8-5	.529
26	Green Bay	9-4	.428
27	Cincinnati	9-4	.457
28	Philadelphia	9-4	.476
29	San Diego	10-3	.457
30	Minnesota	11-2	.423
31	New Orleans	13-0	.394
32	Indianapolis	13-0	.481

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Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oops in bold?

Direckshun · 12-15-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

SDChiefs · 12-15-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

Direckshun · 12-15-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

Fail.

A great safety that can cover obscene distance is like a NT that demands two and sometimes three blockers: it frees up the rest of your defense.

Get Morgan and Mays out there and our corners don't have to play so far off the LOS.

**DeezNutz** · 12-15-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

They do? They're concerned about max. impact with high-round selections? Really?

Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?

ToxSocks · 12-15-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

suds79 · 12-15-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

Do they? I think that's a mistake. Got to have that huge guy in the middle.

Anybody here watch Pat games? What's Wilfork do on 3rd down? I've got to imagine he comes off the field.

My guess is Pioli will follow suit.

beach tribe · 12-15-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

Wilfork doesn't play every down does he?

SDChiefs · 12-15-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?

I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.

Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

welcome to the dark side, young padawan.

i don't hate Cassel and the trade for him was fine ... signing him to a long term contract was NOT fine.

Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.

we just disagree about how good Mays is then.

fair enough, bro.

SDChiefs · 12-15-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

You and me both. Cassel is a bum. I thought he was when we picked him up and was hoping I was wrong. Chock it up to Piolis first major decision=FAIL! Hopefully he cuts his losses and moves on before we have a Jamarcus Russell scenario.

DrRyan · 12-15-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I look at Boo Robinson and I think Darnell Dockett.

If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.

Chiefnj2 · 12-15-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.

You want to draft him and move him to DE?