Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ - Page 6

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+

The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

Mr. Laz · 04-25-2010, 10:06 AM

I hope Gosselin is right but i just don't see it.

imo there is no way that McCluster makes up for that fact that our run defense sucks ass.

imo there is no way Arenas improves the return game enough to make up for having bad linebackers in a 3-4 defense.

DBOSHO · 04-25-2010, 10:16 AM

I have a hard time believing that we had a better draft than the seahawks.

Mosbonian · 04-25-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I hope Gosselin is right but i just don't see it.

imo there is no way that McCluster makes up for that fact that our run defense sucks ass.

imo there is no way Arenas improves the return game enough to make up for having bad linebackers in a 3-4 defense.

And you could be absolutely correct....but I don't think that Cody or Kindle would have made that much of a difference either. There are just too many people dogging Cody for his work ethic (as they did the kid from NC). And Kindle came with injury concerns....

Now...were there other Defensive studs we could have taken there? I'm not the expert. But it seems there were some that were available in later rounds that made me scratch my head as to why we didn't take a flyer on.

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**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This isn't about any specific player.

This is about full time players vs. part time players.

This is pretty much my main complaint. I wanted 4 starters at the end of round 3 I think we got 2.

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaddog

I am ok with you or anyone scratching their head if they don't agree....that's just a difference in opinion, which is part of how this place got started.

It's when the discussions get personal that I shake my head and wonder.

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I mostly agree but I was pretty pissed on Friday night and it wasn't a good sight.

patteeu · 04-25-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep build the foundation and then you can add all the special parts.

A week ago, a statement like that gets you labeled a "True Fan".

ILChief · 04-25-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

I have a hard time believing that we had a better draft than the seahawks.

ironic. If you listened to all the CP wanna be Mel Kipers before the draft (when there was talk of the Chiefs being interested), Russell Okung was a POS that couldn't block me coming off the edge. Now that the Chiefs didn't take him he's the crown jewel of a great Seahawks draft.

chris · 04-25-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I think some people feel as though they are smarter than Pioli and Haley and could run a draft better. Sure, I was kind of scratching my head with some of those picks. But I think it's completely unfair and quite frankly, moronic to say they had a bad draft when we don't know how these guys will pan out. I have always felt that you can't judge a draft until at least 3-4 years down the road.

I will trust the guys at One Arrowhead for now and take a wait and see approach. I think they at least deserve that.

As for the LB corps and the NT position, I wish we would have addressed those. But I also wonder if they feel that they could not address all of those needs in this on draft. Perhaps we will see a FA or 2 and then they address the LB and NT issue in next year's draft.

WHAT!?! You are injecting logic into this thread? Impressive.

**alnorth** · 04-25-2010, 10:27 AM

My theory is SEC bias. I'm wondering if a lot of southern sportswriters, after suffering through losses by their favorite teams partially by these dazzling playmakers, now have an overinflated view of their worth.

Kind of like how we get a little excited when a good KU/KSU/MU player goes somewhere, and the rest of the nation is thinking "who?"

chris · 04-25-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Really? C'mon man, you've been around here long enough to know that if you're opinion is not that of the consensus, you're and idiot.

Posted via Mobile Device

You mean, small, loud voice minority consensus.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

A week ago, a statement like that gets you labeled a "True Fan".

We aren't talking about taking O-Lineman here.

We are talking foundational player that could come in and start and have playmaking ability.

We are talking about full time playmaker v. part time play maker.

HotRoute · 04-25-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He wouldn't have lasted 10 more picks I know that. I am not trying to hijack this Chiefs thread and turn it into another Tebow thread, but I think Tebow will be in the HOF when all is said and done.

hmmmmmmmmm............. lets not get ahead of ourselves now.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

ironic. If you listened to all the CP wanna be Mel Kipers before the draft (when there was talk of the Chiefs being interested), Russell Okung was a POS that couldn't block me coming off the edge. Now that the Chiefs didn't take him he's the crown jewel of a great Seahawks draft.

No, that isn't what we said.

He does have problems with the bull rush and getting pushed staight back into the QB, so he isn't any better as a prospect than Albert is, which is why we argued that he shouldn't be the pick.

When Okung's sac continuously told us how he sealed the edge we simply told him he was full of shit.

But he was the top LT prospect in this draft, and the Seahawks had a legitimate need at LT, so he's a good pick for thier need.

But go ahead a be a ****ing dumbass.

Saccopoo · 04-25-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Hope that makes up for Tebow. What are you going to do with Clady now that you have a LH QB? Move him to RT?

If I were them, I'd leave Clady at LT and make Beadles your RT. He's been a top notch blindside defender in college and would easily slide over to the right side. They seriously upgraded their offensive line, and added a ton of play makers. Getting Thompson and Cox where they did was unbelievable.

I hate the ****ing Broncos, but they had a fantastic draft.

Saccopoo · 04-25-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, that isn't what we said.

He does have problems with the bull rush and getting pushed staight back into the QB, so he isn't any better as a prospect than Albert is, which is why we argued that he shouldn't be the pick.

When Okung's sac continuously told us how he sealed the edge we simply told him he was full of shit.

But he was the top LT prospect in this draft, and the Seahawks had a legitimate need at LT, so he's a good pick for thier need.

But go ahead a be a ****ing dumbass.

There was simply a difference of opinion regarding Okung as it related to the Chiefs. The Drafturbators were fine with Albert. I wasn't. And since Okung played against a lot of guys who were high quality pass rushers and didn't give up a sack to them (Orakpo, Kindle, Sharpe, Miller, etc.), I felt he did a fantastic job of sealing the edge. However, the Seahawks didn't really have anyone at LT. Chiefs had a young guy that hopefully can develop.

Okung to the Seahawks was as good a pick and as necessary a pick as Berry to the Chiefs. Both teams were overjoyed that each were on the board when they picked.

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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	My theory is SEC bias. I'm wondering if a lot of southern sportswriters, after suffering through losses by their favorite teams partially by these dazzling playmakers, now have an overinflated view of their worth. Kind of like how we get a little excited when a good KU/KSU/MU player goes somewhere, and the rest of the nation is thinking "who?" __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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