Chiefs The Jets or the Ravens in the Playoffs? - Page 6

Tertullian · 12-21-2010, 03:48 PM

Let's assume that the Chiefs, the Jets, and the Ravens make the playoffs. The Jets and the Ravens being WC.

Who do you want to play?

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll take the Jets WR's every day of the week against the Raven's WR's.

I agree with your opinion at QB and Rice.

While Holmes is good, I don't think he's in the same class as Boldin. Edwards is the same as Mason in my mind. Houshmanzedeh is better than Cotchery too.

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

FWIW, this is one of the best football discussions this place has seen in some time.

Probably has to do with the fact that we're talking about US being in the playoffs

. Been sometime since we did that.

ToxSocks · 12-21-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

How would we struggle more against NYJ?

Flacco >> Sanchez
Boldin >> Holmes
Rice >> Tomlinson
Mason = Edwards
McGahee > Green

Ravens offense is 10 times better than the Jets offense.

If you watch the games, Flacco has been inconsistant. So has Sanchez, but I've Sanchez do some great things.

Boldin is a better matchup for Flowers than Holmes is, regardless who you think is better. Rice is better than Tomlinson but he's been such a disapointment this season. He's not doing THAT much better.

Mason is a better matchup for Carr than Edwards. our DB's struggle against fast receivers. especially big ones.

And McGahee is not better than Green.

10 Times better? No way.

WebGem · 12-21-2010, 05:22 PM

Whoever was saying the Jets would be favored, give me a line prediction if they played at Arrowhead this Sunday in a must-win game for both teams.

BigRock · 12-21-2010, 05:23 PM

Having seen the other thread, I'm now fully behind the idea of playing the Jets, provided that at all key moments we put a picture of feet up on the screen to befuddle Rex.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

While Holmes is good, I don't think he's in the same class as Boldin. Edwards is the same as Mason in my mind. Houshmanzedeh is better than Cotchery too.

Wow.

Completely, 100% disagree.

IMO, Holmes is a true WR1. Boldin will never be anything more than a WR2 in my eyes.

Edwards has the skills to be a WR1, he just isn't consistent. And he presents a nightmare matchup for our CB's with his height.

Mason's a WR3 at best.

Where one might be able to argue that all of these guys is comparable is taking into consideration who getting them the ball.

If both QB's are playing at their best, the Jets WR's are much more dangerous, IMO.

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

If you watch the games, Flacco has been inconsistant. So has Sanchez, but I've Sanchez do some great things.

Prior to last week, Sanchez threw a pick in 8 straight games. He had 3 multi pick games. Flacco has been more consistent than Sanchez.

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Boldin is a better matchup for Flowers than Holmes is, regardless who you think is better. Rice is better than Tomlinson but he's been such a disapointment this season. He's not doing THAT much better.

Both are hard matchups. I think Flowers would match up on Holmes if we played the Jets, while Carr would match up on Boldin if we played the Ravens.

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2010, 05:25 PM

I don't care about stats.

Look at the personnel in NY's front seven:

-------Shaun Ellis Sione Pouha Mike Devito--------

Bryan Thomas Bart Scott David Harris Calvin Pace

Jason Taylor is a shadow of his former self. Not scary at all.

Now, would you rather face that, or:

---------Cory Redding Kelly Gregg Haloti Ngata---------

Terrell Suggs Jameel McClain Ray Lewis Jarret Johnson

And to top it off they have Terrence Cody coming off the bench, keeping Gregg and Ngata fresh.

Throw in the fact that Flacco is gonna hurt you a lot more than Sanchez and it's a no brainer. And no one on New York compares to Ray Rice, IMO.

Halfcan · 12-21-2010, 05:25 PM

We need to win 2 more games first.

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wow.

Completely, 100% disagree.

IMO, Holmes is a true WR1. Boldin will never be anything more than a WR2 in my eyes.

Edwards has the skills to be a WR1, he just isn't consistent. And he presents a nightmare matchup for our CB's with his height.

Mason's a WR3 at best.

Where one might be able to argue that all of these guys is comparable is taking into consideration who getting them the ball.

If both QB's are playing at their best, the Jets WR's are much more dangerous, IMO.

What makes you think Boldin is a #2?

-King- · 12-21-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

I don't care about stats.

Look at the personnel in NY's front seven:

-------Shaun Ellis Sione Pouha Mike Devito--------

Bryan Thomas Bart Scott David Harris Calvin Pace

Jason Taylor is a shadow of his former self. Not scary at all.

Now, would you rather face that, or:

---------Cory Redding Kelly Gregg Haloti Ngata---------

Terrell Suggs Jameel McClain Ray Lewis Jarret Johnson

And to top it off they have Terrence Cody coming off the bench, keeping Gregg and Ngata fresh.

Throw in the fact that Flacco is gonna hurt you a lot more than Sanchez and it's a no brainer. And no one on New York compares to Ray Rice, IMO.

Yeah...Ngata would rape Weigmann in every way possible. Dude is a beast.

Titty Meat · 12-21-2010, 05:30 PM

Whats the biggest deficit the Chiefs have came back from this year? With the shitty pass rush we have I just see any of the mentioned teams getting out to lead and i'm not sure we comeback from it.

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2010, 05:31 PM

Our bread and butter is running to the left.

Do you want to run at:

Ngata, Lewis and Johnson (who is pretty underrated)

OR

Devito (who the **** is that?), Harris, Pace

No brainer.

Ngata and Lewis might be the best run stopping lineman and linebacker in the entire league.

Mr. Laz · 12-21-2010, 05:33 PM

i dunno ... it's difficult

Ravens have the better QB by far
you really can run on the the Ravens if you keep at it

Jets are better at stopping the run(big key for us)
Jets have the better Oline
Jet's have better run game
Jet's are just better except for the QB position and a reerun coach.

If the jets weren't such underachieving fugtards it wouldn't even be close. But they are so i dunno. It has to be at Arrowhead or we have no shot and even then i doubt we can step up. We sure couldn't step up against San Diego.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What makes you think Boldin is a #2?

The fact that I don't consider him an elite WR, for starters.

Dude took advantage of playing alongside a true elite WR. Now that he's the Raven's #1, he's been terribly inconsistent.

I read somewhere that in 14 games this year, he's been held to 50 or fewer yards EIGHT times - twice being held under 10 yards. Only three 100-yard games.

Just never been a huge fan. I think Holmes is more talented, and would have better stats than Boldin had he not missed 4 games.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $730478	I don't care about stats. Look at the personnel in NY's front seven: -------Shaun Ellis Sione Pouha Mike Devito-------- Bryan Thomas Bart Scott David Harris Calvin Pace Jason Taylor is a shadow of his former self. Not scary at all. Now, would you rather face that, or: ---------Cory Redding Kelly Gregg Haloti Ngata--------- Terrell Suggs Jameel McClain Ray Lewis Jarret Johnson And to top it off they have Terrence Cody coming off the bench, keeping Gregg and Ngata fresh. Throw in the fact that Flacco is gonna hurt you a lot more than Sanchez and it's a no brainer. And no one on New York compares to Ray Rice, IMO. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $730478	Our bread and butter is running to the left. Do you want to run at: Ngata, Lewis and Johnson (who is pretty underrated) OR Devito (who the **** is that?), Harris, Pace No brainer. Ngata and Lewis might be the best run stopping lineman and linebacker in the entire league. __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-21-2010, 05:33 PM	#89
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i dunno ... it's difficult Ravens have the better QB by far you really can run on the the Ravens if you keep at it Jets are better at stopping the run(big key for us) Jets have the better Oline Jet's have better run game Jet's are just better except for the QB position and a reerun coach. If the jets weren't such underachieving fugtards it wouldn't even be close. But they are so i dunno. It has to be at Arrowhead or we have no shot and even then i doubt we can step up. We sure couldn't step up against San Diego. __________________
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