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Old 01-23-2011, 12:58 AM  
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Sac's 1/22 Mock (Official Underclassman Draft)

1. Carolina Panthers
- A.J. Green, WR; Georgia
- Green is the most talented player in the draft and is considered the best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson. The guy is a phenom and would give the Panthers a legit weapon downrange, especially as Steve Smith is aging. Fairley is tempting, but Panthers should be able to get a quality DT in the second round, such as local boy Marvin Austin.

2. Denver Broncos
- Nick Fairley, DT; Auburn
- Denver needs immediate help in the defensive front four and Fairley had a monster 2010 season capped by a fantastic performance in the national championship game.

3. Buffalo Bills
- Jake Locker, QB; Washington
- Locker might have been the first quarterback taken last year, but for whatever reason, he’s now being devalued. I don’t buy it. The guy has elite level measurables and should put up ridiculous numbers during the Combine and at his Pro Day workout. Bills fans aren’t satisfied with Fitz at QB and they’ve spent a lot of recent #1 picks on the defensive side of the ball.

4. Cincinnati Bengals
- Da’Quan Bowers, DE; Clemson
- Bowers, the former #1 overall HS prospect, finally lived up to the hype in 2010 posting 15.5 sacks and 25 TFL. A physical freak in the Peppers mold, it will be interesting to see if just one solid year nets him a top five pick. I don’t think the Bengals can afford to pass on him as their pass rush was anemic.

5. Arizona Cardinals
- Robert Quinn, OLB/DE; North Carolina
- Haggans and Porter are in the mid-30’s and Arizona only had 26 sacks total last season. Quinn, while sitting out the 2010 season due to receiving improper benefits, has been endorsed by UNC for the upcoming draft. Was considered one of the top players prior to his ineligibility.

6. Cleveland Browns
- Marcell Dareus, DT; Alabama
- The Browns defensive line was in shambles from injury and lack of depth in 2010. Dareus has the size, athleticism and versatility to play any of the defensive line spots in a 3-4 and would give the Browns a huge boost talent wise.

7. San Francisco 49’ers
- Pat Peterson, CB; LSU
- The Niners hit the lottery here as Peterson falls into their laps. Not only do they need an upgrade at cornerback, Peterson is considered to be one of the best CB prospects in a long, long time.

8. Tennessee Titans
- Cam Newton, QB; Auburn
- To the surprise of some, quarterback Vince Young was shown the door this off-season. Lucky for the Titans, a substantially more talented guy is now for the taking in Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton. Newton has a much better arm and is much faster than Young. The offense is set up for a guy like Newton and head coach Jeff Fisher will love Newton’s competitiveness and desire to win.

9. Dallas Cowboys
- Mark Ingram, RB; Alabama
- Barber has fallen out of favor/use, and Jones’ YPC dropped to a pedestrian 4.3 in 2010. Ingram reminds some of former Cowboy great Emmitt Smith for his vision and patience and ability to hit holes at the correct moment. He’s very instinctive and would take off a lot of pressure from Romo.

10. Washington Redskins
- Blaine Gabbert, QB; Missouri
- Gabbert has jumped up as one of the top quarterback prospects in the 2010 draft due to his prototype size and big arm. The Redskins desperately need a QB and Gabbert fits what Shanahan likes in a signal caller.

11. Houston Texans
- Von Miller, OLB; Texas A&M
- Miller, the 2010 Butkus Award winner, is the best pass rusher in this draft and would fill a big need on the Texans roster as they move to a 3-4 defense under new coordinator Wade Phillips.

12. Minnesota Vikings
- Julio Jones, WR; Alabama
- With most of the quarterbacks off the board, the Vikings look to bolster a passing game that ranked 26th in the league and draft phenom Jones. Jones is a huge target with insane athletic abilities. His numbers weren’t huge in Alamaba’s run oriented offensive scheme, but all the measurables and intangibles are there to give Minnesota their true #1 WR that they have lacked in recent years.

13. Detroit Lions
- Mike Pouncey, OG; Florida
- The Lions may have the worst guards in the history of the league. Their quarterbacks suffered injury after injury as defensive tackles and linebackers blew through the middle of the line. They need to bolster a weak run game and Pouncey is the best lineman in this draft, even if he’s a pure guard. Huge, athletic and powerful, Pouncey would be mana from heaven for a talent starved interior offensive line.

14. St. Louis Rams
- Prince Amukamara, CB; Nebraska
- With Jones off the board, the Rams go with BPA and Amukamara is the guy. It also fills a large talent void at the cornerback position.

15. Miami Dolphins
- Stephen Paea, DT; Oregon State
- Paul Solial is a free agent and if he doesn’t re-sign with Miami, they’ll have a huge need at the nose tackle position. Paea is a beast that can really plug the run.

16. Jacksonville Jaguars
- Ryan Kerrigan, DE; Purdue
- Absolute monster 2010 season as he destroyed offensive lines on his way to first team AA and conference defensive POY.

17. New England Patriots
- Akeem Ayers, OLB; UCLA
- Ayers fits the 3-4 OLB mold to a “T” especially in the Patriots system.

18. San Diego Chargers
- Justin Houston, OLB; Georgia
- Merriman is basically an afterthought and English hasn’t developed. Houston has the size and athleticism you want in a 3-4 rush backer, a position the Chargers need.

19. New York Giants
- Gabe Carimi, OT; Wisconsin
- The Giants need tackle help, and Carimi played extremely well down the stretch for the Badgers. He’s athletic, but experienced in smash mouth football. He’ll fit the Giants scheme well.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- Brandon Harris, CB; Miami
- Ronde Barber may or may not be back next season. Even if he’s on the roster, he’ll be 36 and there isn’t much else behind him.

21. Kansas City Chiefs
- Anthony Costanzo, OT; Boston College
- The Chiefs need offensive line help. Their tackles aren’t very good, and that’s being generous. Costanzo has started since his freshman year in BC’s pro style offense. Lots of room for growth on his frame, and has very good skills.

22. Indianapolis Colts
- Tyron Smith, OT; USC
- The Colts need to find a blind side protector immediately. Smith has very good skill set and is moving up in a lot of evaluations.

23. Philadelphia Eagles
- Derek Sherrod, OT; Mississippi State
- The Eagles gave up a ton of sacks in 2010 and need to shore up the o-line. Sherrod is a mauler that fits the Andy Reid offensive lineman mold.

24. New Orleans Saints
- Adrian Clayborn, DE; Iowa
- Clayborn had a less effective season in 2010 and it drops him a bit. Saints are happy to have him fall as it gives depth and talent to a defensive line that needs to improve it’s pass rush.

25. Seattle Seahawks
- Marvin Austin, DT; North Carolina
- Seattle must upgrade the defensive tackle position. Austin, like fellow Tar Heel Robert Quinn, was suspended from play for the 2010 season for accepting gifts. He’s been a terror at the Shrine Bowl practices and looks to have put in a lot of work during this past year. Thick and strong.

26. Baltimore Ravens
- Stephen Wisniewski, C; Penn State
- Matt Birk will be 35 next season. A replacement needs to be groomed sooner rather than later. Wisniewski is a tough guy who’ll fit in nicely at Baltimore.

27. Atlanta Falcons
- Greg Jones, LB; Michigan State
- Jones is the top 4-3 linebacker in the draft and has the ability to play any of the positions. Mike Peterson is 35 years old. Jones would give the Falcons a trio of talented, young linebackers.

28. New England Patriots
- Jimmy Smith, CB; Colorado
- The Pats ranked 30th in passing yards given up in 2010 and need to bolster that area. Smith is incredibly talented and has a passion for the game. Fits the mold of what the Pats typically look for in a player,

29. Green Bay Packers
- J.J. Watt, DE/DT; Wisconsin
- While the Packers could use upgrades/depth at the running back spot and wide receiver, Watt is too good a prospect at the 3-4 defensive end position to pass on at this point – a spot where Green Bay is thin without significant talent.

30. New York Jets
- Cameron Heyward, DE/DT; Ohio State
- Ellis and Pryce are in their mid-30’s, Gholston is a bust and will be released. DeVito is tough but lacks athleticism. Heyward would be a solid pick for the Jets here in the late first round.

31. Chicago Bears
- Nate Solder, OT; Colorado
- Bears need offensive tackles. Solder is incredibly athletic and even though he’s 6’8”, 310 lbs., has a lot of room on his frame to add weight. Strong and smart with an exceptional work ethic.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers
- DeMarcus Love, OT; Arkansas
- Can play either guard or tackle position. Was a four year starter for the Razorbacks at RG, RT and LT. A nasty mauler type lineman.
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:52 PM   #76
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Not running with Shonn Greene was the first mistake.
Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:35 PM   #77
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Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.
Especially since both Albert and Richardson are both good run blockers. Which Saccopoo apparently does not see. The problem with our running game is right up the gut. Right where Saccopoo says our best o-lineman plays.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:17 PM   #78
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Especially since both Albert and Richardson are both good run blockers. Which Saccopoo apparently does not see. The problem with our running game is right up the gut. Right where Saccopoo says our best o-lineman plays.
No they are not. Albert has no balance, doesn't move his feet well, lunges and tries to drive block in the open field/second level and ends up on the ground constantly. It's ****ing embarrassing more than anything. Saying Richardson is good at anything is being overly generous, and both he and Albert got a ton of help from Moeaki and Bowe, who are the teams best blockers. (Tragically, they are also our best receivers. When they are running patterns, our blocking ability is virtually non-existent.)

Our "up the gut" game doesn't exist. Wiegmann will get overwhelmed when forced to take on two defenders such as a center will be asked to do in short yardage situations. Lilja was released by the Colts because he didn't have the strength to hold the point of attack, particularly in the red zone against the Saints. Both are very good players, but they are not short yardage guys. Our backs and fullbacks are not good blockers. And Waters, while crafty with some power still in his game, has never had the most nimble of feet.

The team is built for an east-west game (something that Albert isn't good at anyway as he was drafted as a phone booth guard out of college that had very good pro-days and Combine and some people were projecting him to the tackle position based on those two things - such as Herm and Carl). Haley uses a zone blocking scheme that requires quicker, smarter, more agile linemen. It's why he wants his guys light and quick. The tackles need to be able to get into pulls quickly and get into the second level and have the ability to take on linebackers and backs when they are there.

However, as I've stated before, it also requires a quick thinking quarterback with some degree of mobility.

I know a shit ton of you people think that we can just have our pick of the free agent litter and get all of these high quality 338 lbs. smash mouth offensive linemen without drafting them, but I'm here to tell you that it's not going to work that way.

They actually pulled Richardson from a game because he was ****ing up so bad. That he showed some "fire" about it means zilch. The guy sucks. And Albert was consistently owned all season long. Whether you don't think that a team needs to spend a high draft pick on an offensive line player, the vast majority of teams actually do place an emphasis on getting quality guys at that position, particularly at the tackle spots.

We have a young and talented defense. A true nose tackle would be nice.

We need an offense to match. We've got some nice play makers (Charles, Bowe, Moeaki), but we need to build the line to get the most out of it, to give those guys the capability of making the plays that they are capable of making. (And I'm not going to bitch if the Chiefs pick up a quarterback in this draft either.)
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Saying this about the Rams pick, they won't take a CB. They need a DE or DL more than they need a CB. Bartell and Fletcher are 2 decent CBs and Murphy could be a solid player.
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Am I watching the same team that Sac is? He seems to describe the o-line differently than I would...
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The team is built for an east-west game (something that Albert isn't good at anyway as he was drafted as a phone booth guard out of college
Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.
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Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.
The pre-draft videos of him blocking in space reminded most people of Willie Roaf.

Except Sac, who was probably pissed we didn't move up to draft Jake Long at the time.
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The pre-draft videos of him blocking in space reminded most people of Willie Roaf.

Except Sac, who was probably pissed we didn't move up to draft Jake Long at the time.
Wait!

Is Sac a findthedr mult?
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Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.
Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.
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The dude is the best run block on our offense, without question. He constantly takes two guys out on the same play when we run off tackle.

He struggles against top-end pass rushers, but he improved in that regard compared to last year.

The dude's arrow is pointing up. He is not Ryan Sims.

You are absurd sometimes.
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Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.
Wow, this is one of the most hilarious posts I have read in a while, your hatred for Albert is seething out of everyone of your posts.
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The dude is the best run block on our offense, without question. He constantly takes two guys out on the same play when we run off tackle.

He struggles against top-end pass rushers, but he improved in that regard compared to last year.

The dude's arrow is pointing up. He is not Ryan Sims.

You are absurd sometimes.
Sims is still in the league. He's just not the all-world guy that he was made out to be in college because he was the beneficiary of playing next to a legitimate stud.

If you think Albert is a decent run blocker then move his ass over to the right side or, better yet, put him in at left guard which is his natural position (or at least it was in college). The guy has no business being the blind side protector at this level.

Like I said before, I think he's got the skills to be a very good guard in the league, especially in Haley's system. However, he's not an NFL level left tackle.
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Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.
DBrick gave up 28 sacks his first three years in the NFL. Albert has given up 24.
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And Albert was consistently owned all season long.

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