Chiefs Haley going to run conservative Offense - Page 6

**chiefforlife** · 02-13-2011, 09:23 AM

Matt Cassel - QB - Chiefs

Chiefs HC Todd Haley wants to run "a meat and potatoes offense" in 2011.
That's good news for Jamaal Charles' fantasy stock, and bad news for Matt Cassel's. Former OC Charlie Weis reportedly left because he wanted "to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense," while Haley wanted to remain conservative. After it became public that Weis was leaving last season, Cassel posted a 0:5 TD-to-INT ratio in two games.
Related: Jamaal Charles
Source: National Football Post
Feb 13, 9:48:00 AM

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

usual suspects bitching and moaning about something that hasn't even happened yet

lololol

completely unfair imo

It's perfectly acceptable and even expected imo for fans to speculate about what their offense is going to be like after they lose their offensive Coordinator.

what you are some kind of buddist,zen mother ****er who just says Que sera sera?

**BigRedChief** · 02-13-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Thank You.

I was just posting a story I read about the Chiefs, I didnt know we were supposed to post the authors biography as well. Hehe

just a link to the story is all thats required. Thats not too much trouble to ask.

Brock · 02-13-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I have no idea what a national football post is, looks to me to be some blogger site. No link in a post like this is an epic fail.

This isn't news or even a sourced rumor. Just some dudes idea of whats going to happen. We all have ideas what will happen. Why should we care what this one blogger thinks? Why does it warrant its own thread? Have they been right in the past? Well respected?

That's not a standard any thread has had to meet in the past. Quit whining just because you don't like the message.

**BigRedChief** · 02-13-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That's not a standard any thread has had to meet in the past. Quit whining just because you don't like the message.

As I said, a link where the information came from is sufficent. I think that is the acceptable standard here.

Brock · 02-13-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

As I said, a link where the information came from is sufficent. I think that is the acceptable standard here.

There is no standard. quitcherbitchin.

DaWolf · 02-13-2011, 07:06 PM

I'm not sure if the notion of being conservative on offense meshes with the reality of Haley's propensity of being aggressive and going for it on fourth downs.

Whatever the case, we have to get better at converting third downs...

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

usual suspects bitching and moaning about something that hasn't even happened yet

lololol

Heh, this.

beach tribe · 02-13-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I really find this difficult to believe, since Haley ran a lot of spread in Arizona, and Weis made his money as the Patriot OC by sticking to the run game even when they had marginal success.

The only thing that might lend this credibility is if that Haley believes that Cassel is the weak link and he believes that limiting Cassel and running the ball gives him the best chance to succeed.

Are you even capable of posting something that I don't agree with?

FAX · 02-13-2011, 07:22 PM

I haven't read this entire thread, so my apologies to all and in advance.

I don't agree with this "article", though. I do not believe that Haley is capable of shutting off the cat burger side of his personality. Once a man has gone cat burger, the only question left is whether or not you're also getting the hot apple turnover.

FAX

**chiefforlife** · 02-13-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

As I said, a link where the information came from is sufficent. I think that is the acceptable standard here.

The source is posted in the original post, the story is pasted. I even posted the link I read it at later.....and you still Neg repped me! I even asked you not to after the "rep heist" wow. Thanks.

Brock · 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

The source is posted in the original post, the story is pasted. I even posted the link I read it at later.....and you still Neg repped me! I even asked you not to after the "rep heist" wow. Thanks.

That's a dick move.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I haven't read this entire thread, so my apologies to all and in advance.

I don't agree with this "article", though. I do not believe that Haley is capable of shutting off the cat burger side of his personality. Once a man has gone cat burger, the only question left is whether or not you're also getting the hot apple turnover.

FAX

**The Bad Guy** · 02-13-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Without knowing the source of this report, it's difficult to ascertain its validity.

That said, it does jibe with reports of the Chiefs meeting with so many offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl, etc. If they're really wanting to run the ball effectively, regardless of down and distance, they'll need to replace the center, right guard and right tackle this year, just for starters.

Why would they have to replace Lilja? They'll need to replace Weigmann, but if they are going with a maulball philosophy, B Rich is well suited for that.

What he's not suited for is pass blocking.

Lilja was a great run blocker last year.

**morphius** · 02-13-2011, 08:44 PM

This doesn't jive well with the rumor that he took over play calling of the second half of the playoff game, where he didn't run the ball at all.

crossbow · 02-13-2011, 09:21 PM

If I was the head coach/OC I would certainly go with an offense that needed at least 4 good wideouts when my team has one and a mediocre o-line. Lets get the QB killed. What the hell aye?

Bottom line: We don't know what he plans to do but he is going to use what he has that works. And he isn't going to force his team into a style that it doesn't have the players for. Don't be fooled by last years record. We were the best of the worst. Lots of rebuilding needs to be done yet. Wait another two years and then let the bitching start. Gotta get some players before you can win, aye? And if Haley's play calling sucks then he can fire himself. It would be yet another OC that he couldn't work with....himself.

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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	I'm not sure if the notion of being conservative on offense meshes with the reality of Haley's propensity of being aggressive and going for it on fourth downs. Whatever the case, we have to get better at converting third downs...
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I haven't read this entire thread, so my apologies to all and in advance. I don't agree with this "article", though. I do not believe that Haley is capable of shutting off the cat burger side of his personality. Once a man has gone cat burger, the only question left is whether or not you're also getting the hot apple turnover. FAX
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02-13-2011, 09:21 PM	#90
crossbow King of Sarcasm Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: at home Casino cash: $10004900	If I was the head coach/OC I would certainly go with an offense that needed at least 4 good wideouts when my team has one and a mediocre o-line. Lets get the QB killed. What the hell aye? Bottom line: We don't know what he plans to do but he is going to use what he has that works. And he isn't going to force his team into a style that it doesn't have the players for. Don't be fooled by last years record. We were the best of the worst. Lots of rebuilding needs to be done yet. Wait another two years and then let the bitching start. Gotta get some players before you can win, aye? And if Haley's play calling sucks then he can fire himself. It would be yet another OC that he couldn't work with....himself.
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