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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 PM  
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Joeckel vs. Alberts

I know I probably misspelled his name but I want to get everyones true opinion of Joeckel. We want to sign Alberts but I believe most on here are in agreement that he isn't worth top 5 money. At the moment we don't know his demands.

Ever since Alberts was drafted we have debated on here whether or not he should be playing T or G. Mostly because he was a G in college. Most on here would agree that he is a pretty solid LT just not elite.

With that being said.........how does everyone really feel about potentially having a prototipical LT in Joeckel? Put the whole QB situation aside for a minute and just think of the OL.

If we came out of the draft with Joeckel and potentially Barkley if we traded back up or he fell for some reason then wouldn't that be a great start?
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:58 PM   #76
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Taking Joeckel is like trading Albert AND the first overall pick for him.

That's just ridiculous to even fathom.
lol....I think we are past this part of the discussion. Now we are talking about how to "fix" the line if Albert isn't retained. It seems that taking a C and moving a couple of players currently on the roster would be the way to go and still use our first pick on the BPA.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:59 PM   #77
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:03 AM   #78
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Here's a hypothetical: You actually have something to add to a discussion.

It's not far fetched to think a player that is a FA could/would not be retained and would need replaced.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:05 AM   #79
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I didn't know he had lisfranc.

Even knowing that, I'd take him in the third....have him immediately have the surgery and sart him off on pup with intentions for him to take over at center or guard my the end of his first season.
He's had surgery already.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:08 AM   #80
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I think even with the lisfranc, he will be drafted before our pick in the third. The dude is a stud guard or center and can play multiple line positions at a high level. I'd love to have him playing center for us and move Hudson back to guard.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:09 AM   #81
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He's had surgery already.
I like his fire. Isn't he the one that pushed the QB during the bowl game when the QB was mouthing him because he was trying to change his calls at the line?
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:14 AM   #82
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I like his fire. Isn't he the one that pushed the QB during the bowl game when the QB was mouthing him because he was trying to change his calls at the line?
I don't think it was over changing calls IIRC.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:17 AM   #83
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:24 AM   #84
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I think it's a Jokel we haven't signed Albert as well.
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Name one team.
OK, Cleveland pays Joe Thomas big LT money.
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OK, Cleveland pays Joe Thomas big LT money.
Yeah? And?
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No they don't. Sorry, but it's just not an idea that will work.


You have to franchise Albert. He's not going to sign on then be moved to guard. If you franchise him, he can sit out.

He doesnt' want to play guard and he probably won't.
He doesn't get paid if he sits out. Very few players are willing to pass up $10+ million.

And yes they do. Several of them do. Are you under the impression that LTs never get paid?
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Yeah? And?
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He doesn't get paid if he sits out. Very few players are willing to pass up $10+ million.

And yes they do. Several of them do. Are you under the impression that LTs never get paid?
What team pays a guys LT money then moves him to G and drafts another LT?


Of course teams pay LTs big money. But they stay at LT.
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He doesn't get paid if he sits out. Very few players are willing to pass up $10+ million.

And yes they do. Several of them do. Are you under the impression that LTs never get paid?
And IIRC, if you franchise him at LT, he has to play LT otherwise he would be classified as a G.
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