Browns get rid of Lombardi; promote Ray Farmer to GM

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

The Chiefsification of the Browns begins

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m
CLEV hiring former Chiefs VP of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich to assist new Browns GM Ray Farmer, per sources. They worked together in KC.

People around here still can't wrap their mind around the fact that it was Kuharich that managed that 2008 draft, not Herman ****ing Edwards.

Farmer, by all accounts, is highlyy respected in league circles, and his first major decision as GM probaly illustrates why that is.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by milkman

People around here still can't wrap their mind around the fact that it was Kuharich that managed that 2008 draft, not Herman ****ing Edwards.

Farmer, by all accounts, is highlyy respected in league circles, and his first major decision as GM probaly illustrates why that is.

I agree I think they will have a good draft. A lot of ammo like us in 08.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by milkman

People around here still can't wrap their mind around the fact that it was Kuharich that managed that 2008 draft, not Herman ****ing Edwards.

Farmer, by all accounts, is highlyy respected in league circles, and his first major decision as GM probaly illustrates why that is.

Kuharich has been semiretired for several years now. That doesn't seem like a guy who really has his finger on the pulse.

[Easy 6]

This move seems like they've finally decided to get serious over there, if Haslam will just sign the check and stay the hell out of their way that is.

[Just Passin' By]

Steelers: three head coaches the past 45 years. Browns: three head coaches the past 407 days.

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[Simply Red]

Is this the guy that was so magnified in Hard Knocks, 'Have to go see Ray in his office' bit...?

Well I mean - good for him I guess.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Is this the guy that was so magnified in Hard Knocks, 'Have to go see Ray in his office' bit...?

Well I mean - good for him I guess.

Yes, “Go see Ray Farmer and take your playbook” was asking if they wanted a blindfold and cigarette.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Yes, “Go see Ray Farmer and take your playbook” was asking if they wanted a blindfold and cigarette.

[Dunerdr]

Pioli to the browns next season.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They can fire everyone and it won't matter till they get a legit qb...oh and anyone trying to sell Hoyer as that again gets negged into oblivion.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by PGM

They can fire everyone and it won't matter till they get a legit qb.

Please explain why the Bears didn't make the POs this season in a weak NFC North then?

[Arrow]

The best thing Lombardi/Banner did was get rid of Richardson for a first-rounder. Their 2013 draft pretty much sucked. But the team isn't going to make any progress on the "fire everybody" principle.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Arrow

The best thing Lombardi/Banner did was get rid of Richardson for a first-rounder. Their 2013 draft pretty much sucked. But the team isn't going to make any progress on the "fire everybody" principle.

I don't really get the problem with the 2013 draft. Mingo seems to be working out. Beyond that, they only had a 3rd, a 6th and a pair of 7ths, because of the Bess deal and trading into this year's, deeper, draft twice.

[SAUTO]

haslem has hired four top guys, if you combine the browns and his flying j empire, in the last two years and has now fired all of them.

[booger]

Both good questions. Why Farmer and why has Kuharich been out of the league since the end of '08.

It's just a matter of time before someone took a chance on him. He's in with the other up and coming GM prospects but he has a mostly Pro scouting side of things background that I think hurt him. I thought that would keep him from getting a shot without being on the college side. He got a good amount of work in '08 as they pretty much let him run the practice squad try outs/work outs and they made a bunch of transactions. Multiple per week. And they went out and signed Studebaker and Gilberry by directly swiping them off the eagles and giants PS's.

I would say Bill K was out so long because he got tagged with the Ricky Williams trade and all those pics traded for him. That was more Ditka. Plus he has been around a long time. He was in the USFL like Carl. Just younger, think his dad was coach or scout. Plus with the Saints he was Pres and GM. You don't see those titles/structures set up like that much anymore and that aspect of it is dated. I imagine it was tough finding the right fit in a VP/Player Personnel or asst gm role. Wasn't any other Carl connections out there and most don't want to bring in an equal but an understudy.

Perfect fit with Farmer needing that college scouting background with the ability to evaluate and build a staff of scouts the way they want. Who knows how they do but it makes sense on the surface. The timing is quite odd as that owner is paying for plenty of folks not working there. At least they made a move to give the fans some hope.