Terez Paylor mocks us a CB

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by milkman

This defwnse needs a FS far more than a CB.

You stupid ****ers all bitch and moan that Bob Sutton didn't make any adjustments, when, in fact, he did.

He tried to cover foir the gaping hole at free safety by lining the corners off the line after teams began to exploit deep routes that Lewis failed to help with.

The problem is that it allowed teams to rape this defense on the quick dink and dunks that the Mannings and Rivers of the world thrive on.

Find a FS that can play the single high technique, and allow these corners to play the press physical coverage that they thrive on, and this secondary is plenty good enough to play against the QBs that scare your dumb asses.

All well said... only issue is you're likely going to have to reach early (round 1) for one or move up into round 2 somehow to get one of the others that will be around. That is, unless you can trade down which will be easier said than done this year. Ideally, I like Deone Buchanon out of Washington State, but he's looking like he'll go in round 2.

[BossChief]

Positions that shouldn't even be on te draft board for the 23 slot:

CB
C
G
OT
ILB
RB
FB
K/P

All of those positions are either extremely deep, where a player of similar ability can be had later in the draft (CB, OT) or are a position not worth of that high of a pick.

Taking Roby in what could be the best corner class in the last 20 years would be a massive waste of a valuable resource.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Positions that shouldn't even be on te draft board for the 23 slot:

CB
C
G
OT
ILB
RB
FB
K/P

All of those positions are either extremely deep, where a player of similar ability can be had later in the draft (CB, OT) or are a position not worth of that high of a pick.

Taking Roby in what could be the best corner class in the last 20 years would be a massive waste of a valuable resource.

So WR shouldn't be on the board either since it's the deepest and best WR class in 10 years, right?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

So WR shouldn't be on the board either since it's the deepest and best WR class in 10 years, right?

I think there are 5 or 6 WRs in this class that have a chance to be special players.

Watkins
Lee
Evans
Beckam
Cooks

Maybe Benjamin

While this is a deep receiver class, I don't see any of the other guys even close to this group.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Positions that shouldn't even be on te draft board for the 23 slot:

CB
C
G
OT
ILB
RB
FB
K/P

All of those positions are either extremely deep, where a player of similar ability can be had later in the draft (CB, OT) or are a position not worth of that high of a pick.

Taking Roby in what could be the best corner class in the last 20 years would be a massive waste of a valuable resource.

I don't entirely agree here.

If we had an ILB next to DJ that we didn't have to take out on passing downs, Berry wouldn't need to be dropped in the box so damn often.

That, along with a FS, would go a long way in fixing the coverage issues this team had.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't entirely agree here.

If we had an ILB next to DJ that we didn't have to take out on passing downs, Berry wouldn't need to be dropped in the box so damn often.

That, along with a FS, would go a long way in fixing the coverage issues this team had.

Exactly, and Joe Mays does nothing to help this and neither do any of the other tomato cans we've got on the roster behind the trio of Houston, Hali and Johnson.

It's obvious that Sutton appreciates Berry and would use him as more of a rover as he was in college. (That alone should make just about everyone around here giddy with joy.)

As it stood in 2013, Berry was your ILB on a lot of downs because Jordan and the like simply couldn't be relied upon in coverage. Having a LB who is very strong in coverage allows the LB to actually play the LB role versus having to waste Berry's speed in the back half by bringing him up in the box so often.

Having a guy like Van Noy along with DJ would give Sutton that opportunity. (Along with a guy who can cover ground at the FS position and a healthy Sanders Commings and Jerron McMillian should be able to do just that.)

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't entirely agree here.

If we had an ILB next to DJ that we didn't have to take out on passing downs, Berry wouldn't need to be dropped in the box so damn often.

That, along with a FS, would go a long way in fixing the coverage issues this team had.

Solid point.

I think they tried to trade up to get Kuechly, too. There were definitely rumors flying around that KC was trying to move up to get a defender that went before us. Not bad to end up with Poe, though.

[BossChief]

Also, this is one of the poorest written pieces to make it past editors in quite some time.

"Though and through" ? Really?

The Chiefs could go Marquise Lee here (even though Lee goes to the Eagles before our pick)

I don't want to list the rest of the crap

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The thing about taking a guy like Ealy is that he improves your run and pass defense simultaneously. Corners can't really do that.

[BossChief]

I'd love it if we draft Ealy at 23.

[The Franchise]

Offensive line is pretty much the only position I'd be upset if we drafted at 23.

[chiefzilla1501]

I'm not a fan of Roby and I've seen a lot of him. Not bad talent, but a pea brain. And for as much as I hear about how fast he is, he never seemed to play very fast. I'd be really worried about a guy like that who constantly got beat against the kind of garbage schedule OSU had last year.

Drafting a corner isn't a bad idea. But not high at all on Roby.

[The Franchise]

It all depends on what you think would be better for this team.

1st - OLB/DE
3rd - WR
4th - CB

or

1st - WR
3rd - CB
4th - OLB/DE

or

1st - CB
3rd - OLB/DE
4th - WR

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It all depends on what you think would be better for this team.

1st - OLB/DE
3rd - WR
4th - CB

or

1st - WR
3rd - CB
4th - OLB/DE

or

1st - CB
3rd - OLB/DE
4th - WR

All of our losses were because of the defense. We're FAR older on defense than offense. Our HC is an offensive genius.

It would make more sense to go defense IMO. I'm not putting my entire faith in a ****ing 5th rd safety to be the messiah. Especially when our CB's can't keep up with speedy WR's, or even WR's that aren't speedsters.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It all depends on what you think would be better for this team.

1st - OLB/DE
3rd - WR
4th - CB

or

1st - WR
3rd - CB
4th - OLB/DE

or

1st - CB
3rd - OLB/DE
4th - WR

1st - OLB/DE
3rd - CB/S
4th - WR