Royals *** Official Kansas City Royals @ San Francisco Giants World Series Game 4 Thread *** - Page 6

**alnorth** · 10:10 PM

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
KC	0	0	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	12	1
SF	1	0	1	0	2	3	4	0	X	11	16	0

Series Tied, 2-2

Jason Vargas 4IP 3R 3ER 2BB 3K
Jason Frasor ⅓IP 1R 1ER 0BB 0K
Danny Duffy ⅔IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Loss Brandon Finnegan 1IP 5R 5ER 2BB 0K
Tim Collins 2IP 2R 2ER 1BB 2K

VS.

Ryan Vogelsong 2⅔IP 4R 4ER 1BB 2K
Jean Machi ⅓IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Win Yusmeiro Petit 3IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Hold Jeremy Affeldt 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Sergio Romo 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hunter Strickland 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Alex Gordon, LF
3. Lorenzo Cain, RF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Mike Moustakas, 3B
5. Tim Collins, P
6. Omar Infante, 2B
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Jarrod Dyson, CF
9. Jason Vargas, P
9. Jason Frasor, P
9. Danny Duffy, P
9. Norichika Aoki, ph
9. Brandon Finnegan, P
9. Jayson Nix, 3B

SF

1. Gregor Blanco, CF
2. Joe Panik, 2B
3. Buster Posey, C
4. Hunter Pence, RF
5. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
6. Brandon Belt, 1B
7. Juan Perez, LF
8. Brandon Crawford, SS
9. Ryan Vogelsong, P
9. Jean Machi, P
9. Matt Duffy, ph
9. Yusmeiro Petit, P
9. Jeremy Affeldt, P
9. Michael Morse, ph
9. Sergio Romo, P
9. Travis Ishikawa, ph
9. Hunter Strickland, P

**alnorth** · 10-25-2014, 01:35 PM

I would have done this: Send Herrera to the plate, tell him not to swing.

Give Dyson a "must steal" sign on the first pitch.

If Dyson is thrown out, then go to the 7th with Herrera. If Dyson does make it, I would pinch-hit for Herrera in the middle of the at-bat. (yes, you are allowed to do that even if its not an injury)

Prison Bitch · 10-25-2014, 01:35 PM

Our wWe was 69% and fell to 67% after Herreras strikeout. Fell again to 59% when he walked Pence to lead off the 7th. So hard to say it worked like Yost expected it. Finnegan's two outs jumped it right back to 77% and saved that decision.

**The Franchise** · 10-25-2014, 01:36 PM

Break these mother****ers.

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 01:37 PM

Finnegan was great and Herrera was clearly not at his best...

but I still liked how Ned played it.

It was, at worst, 50/50. There was justification for either choice.

kstater · 10-25-2014, 01:37 PM

Also, pitching him that second inning likely keeps him on the bench tonight.

**alnorth** · 10-25-2014, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I totally disagree.

I like Finnegan, but his sample size is very small. He was roughed up a bit in his last appearance in the ALCS ... and this is the World Series.

Ned played it fabulously if you ask me.

This was straight-up a wrong decision, period. Batting Herrera while we were clinging to a 1-run lead was ridiculous.

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

This was straight-up a wrong decision, period. Batting Herrera while we were clinging to a 1-run lead was ridiculous.

and I straight up 100% disagree with you

it is what it is

Prison Bitch · 10-25-2014, 01:39 PM

If there was 1 out, it might be more defensible. At least if he Ks the inning is still alive. It's also defensible if Herrera looked like he had EVER swung a bat in his life. Seeing him actually go up there proves to me he had almost 0% chance of getting a hit.

Herrera is a good pitcher. But he's not Davis or Holland. Burning him for a PH isn't like you screw the pooch or that you don't have other options.

**alnorth** · 10-25-2014, 01:40 PM

Our lineup is the same as last night

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 01:40 PM

I don't feel like arguing it. I have no problem calling out Ned when I think he ****s up. This, IMO, was just fine. With H D H and a 3 - 2 lead ... I certainly wanted H #1 to get the 7th inning

**alnorth** · 10-25-2014, 01:43 PM

Fun fact: if you pinch-hit in the middle of the at-bat while there are 0 or 1 strikes and he strikes out, the K is credited to the pinch hitter. If there were 2 strikes, the strikeout is credited to the guy he pinch-hit for.

**TribalElder** · 10-25-2014, 01:45 PM

http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPoll...pollId=4557561

I was in the majority

Prison Bitch · 10-25-2014, 01:47 PM

I'm not certain why Finnegan couldn't have pitched to Pence. RH hitters are only 3-18 against him so far with no power. Small sample size but still.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-25-2014, 01:49 PM

Do work, al.

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 01:50 PM

I want Herrera/Davis/Holland in the 7th - 9th in games we're leading. Period. I thought Ned should've brought in Davis when he brought in Finnegan.

10-25-2014, 01:35 PM	#76
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	I would have done this: Send Herrera to the plate, tell him not to swing. Give Dyson a "must steal" sign on the first pitch. If Dyson is thrown out, then go to the 7th with Herrera. If Dyson does make it, I would pinch-hit for Herrera in the middle of the at-bat. (yes, you are allowed to do that even if its not an injury) __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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10-25-2014, 01:35 PM	#77
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Our wWe was 69% and fell to 67% after Herreras strikeout. Fell again to 59% when he walked Pence to lead off the 7th. So hard to say it worked like Yost expected it. Finnegan's two outs jumped it right back to 77% and saved that decision.
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10-25-2014, 01:36 PM	#78
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Break these mother****ers.
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10-25-2014, 01:37 PM	#79
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Finnegan was great and Herrera was clearly not at his best... but I still liked how Ned played it. It was, at worst, 50/50. There was justification for either choice.
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10-25-2014, 01:37 PM	#80
kstater Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2007 Casino cash: $-1673437	Also, pitching him that second inning likely keeps him on the bench tonight.
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10-25-2014, 01:39 PM	#83
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	If there was 1 out, it might be more defensible. At least if he Ks the inning is still alive. It's also defensible if Herrera looked like he had EVER swung a bat in his life. Seeing him actually go up there proves to me he had almost 0% chance of getting a hit. Herrera is a good pitcher. But he's not Davis or Holland. Burning him for a PH isn't like you screw the pooch or that you don't have other options.
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10-25-2014, 01:40 PM	#84
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Our lineup is the same as last night __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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10-25-2014, 01:43 PM	#86
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Fun fact: if you pinch-hit in the middle of the at-bat while there are 0 or 1 strikes and he strikes out, the K is credited to the pinch hitter. If there were 2 strikes, the strikeout is credited to the guy he pinch-hit for. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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10-25-2014, 01:45 PM	#87
TribalElder Arrowhead Trail of Tears Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: KansasCity Casino cash: $-629559	http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPoll...pollId=4557561 I was in the majority __________________ Pressure is a privilege, and champions adjust
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10-25-2014, 01:47 PM	#88
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	I'm not certain why Finnegan couldn't have pitched to Pence. RH hitters are only 3-18 against him so far with no power. Small sample size but still.
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10-25-2014, 01:49 PM	#89
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $-129806	Do work, al. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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10-25-2014, 01:50 PM	#90
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I want Herrera/Davis/Holland in the 7th - 9th in games we're leading. Period. I thought Ned should've brought in Davis when he brought in Finnegan.
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