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Old 08-29-2022, 12:52 PM  
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Taylor: 53-man roster projection: Ronald Jones returns, eight rookies earn spots

Chiefs’ 53-man roster projection: Ronald Jones returns, eight rookies earn spots

By Nate Taylor

https://theathletic.com/3545850/2022...eight-rookies/

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — One of the hardest days in the NFL every year will occur Tuesday, the league’s mandatory roster cutdown deadline, the annual day when many players on the roster bubble leave a team’s training facility for the final time.

The Chiefs, yet again this year, know they are one of the league’s top Super Bowl contenders. After a traditional away-from-home training camp and a successful tour through the preseason, the Chiefs’ quantity of quality players will make the decisions leading up to Tuesday’s 3 p.m. CT deadline difficult. One decision to keep a player on the initial 53-man roster means another player, perhaps at another position, could be cut then join another team — as soon as this week — and become a contributor this season.

“It’s such a physical sport — and it’s such a long season,” general manager Brett Veach said Thursday on the Chiefs’ local TV broadcast during the team’s preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers. “We talk about it as a (personnel) staff all the time. When you look at your eight, ninth (offensive) lineman and you look at your fifth linebacker or your sixth receiver, those guys are really going to end up starting (or) playing valuable minutes throughout the course of the season.”

Similar to this time last year, the Chiefs have about 60 players who have value. The team appeared to still have about six roster spots available to be won when Thursday’s exhibition started. Following the game, three different players from our previous projection earlier this month have elevated themselves to be in position to earn a place on the Chiefs’ roster.

Below is our final 53-man roster projection, which included the reasons why some players, particularly a few veterans, earned the last roster spots over their younger teammates.

Note: Per usual, starters are designated in italics.

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Old 08-29-2022, 04:06 PM   #76
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Hmm. Maybe. If the Chiefs hadn't traded for Clark, they very well could have traded up to get him that year. He went 3 spots before our pick
He wasn't on the Chiefs draft board that year for medical reasons.
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:09 PM   #77
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Let's face it, if PMII goes down for more than a week or 2, we're screwed. NO SB, no AFC Championship, no AFC West title. So why did we elevate and keep Buechele on the 53 last year? To keep him from being poached. Are we going to allow Henne to challenge George Blanda for being the oldest NFL player ever? Dump him now.

The only thing else I'd rather see is Bushman protected than Bell. Bell's injury is a lot more serious and will take longer to return. Plus he's 32 vs. Bushman's 26.


PMII went down for 2 1/2 games in 2019 and we ended up winning the Super Bowl that year. Only thing that matters is the playoffs. As long as he’s healthy then, we ALWAYS have a chance.

Bell will make the initial 53 and then will be placed on IR to return later in the season. At that point, they can add Bushman back if they really want him. No team is gonna poach him with a broken clavicle.
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:22 PM   #78
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I'd point out it wasn't Henne that was the backup in those 2 1/2 games. The old "we can get another rookie castoff" doesn't play to me. Why do that when you already have a guy that knows the playbook? How long would it take for a new guy to absorb even half of it? Do you know who saved our 1969 season? It wasn't Jacky Lee, it was QB3.

To the Bell/Bushman controversy, yes, one of them will be on the "official 53" then placed on IR/designated. My argument for Bushman is he would be available a lot sooner than Bell. Put him on IR now and see how it goes with his surgery. He's an UFA in 2023.
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:29 PM   #79
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Most likely, to accommodate Blake Bell being on the initial 53, they'll probably cut a vested veteran like Reiter, then move Bell to IR and sign that vested veteran back the following day. That's more likely than risking someone on waivers that they want to keep going forward.
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Man, if Lance sucks with all the shit they gave up to get him, that will be an epic fail of all fails.
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The issue there is though, you'd hope at worst Kinnard can become a starting guard allowing us to move on from Thuney's contract, Buechele never moves to a starter role here.

Wanogho and Christian as backup OT's great, but no need to keep both Allegretti and Reiter, they're the same damn guy.
Can't get behind the Reiter/Allegretti comparison

Nicky Boy is far tougher customer IMO
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Because he's not the same player he was?

Because he wants to be a starter?

I mean, there's dozens of reasons really.
I didn't follow him in Indy, has he fallen off that bad?
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I don't think Kinnard is a guy you keep at this point if it comes down to it. He's a redshirt guy and a player you can probably get in about every draft.
He was extremely disappointing to watch in person at camp.

Hes the definition of a guy that won in college on strictly talent and no work, but got destroyed on every rep I watched from no more than 20 feet away. Everyone on the DL had their way with him with any move they made. Constantly lost his balance and lunges and held on damn near every rep. It was impressive in a bad was….like if they let Mecca suit up.

It sucks because we all hoped he would be this years late round gem of a player that wins a starting job early on and is a stud right away.

He’s not.

He looked like he didn’t belong out there at all and matchups in PS reinforced what my eyes saw and reported on at camp.

I’d cut him unless they feel they can keep him as an insurance policy at guard.
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To be fair, this is Taylor projecting the final roster. It's not the actual final roster.
True. Just going with the idea that he's mostly correct. I'm sure there will be at least one or two surprise cuts/keepers tomorrow.
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That was a good call, dude. No one else here thought Skyy had the intangibles or pedigree to make Nate Taylor’s final projected roster. Kudos to the kid for showing out for a second round pick and to you for seeing through all the Corey Coleman/Cornell Powell/Josh Gordon/Justyn Ross noise.
Can't tell if you're giving me shit or not.

Anyway, I don't know about all that. Honestly didn't get a chance to even really take a look at either Coleman or Powell at all. I did think that Ross had a shot after seeing a few TC clips.

Just really liked the way Skyy ran routes and how reliable his hands were.

He's potentially the Chiefs version of Deebo. Do everything kind of guy that can run every route no matter if he's the X/Y/Z/H whatever. He'll probably even run/catch the ball as a RB now and again.

Then when I watched that interview with him and he talked about how invested he was as far as studying the playbook, that's when I thought he had a pretty good shot at making it so long as he didn't just shit the bed in any of the preseason games.

That's actually why I thought McDuffie was going to make it even before PSG1; that episode of the Franchise where he's in his film room in his new home and how he already had it set up with the dry-erase board and all told me a lot about what kind of player he was going to be.

Ditto Karlofogus. He's another 'hit the books as hard as possible' kind of guy.

Those guys are all cut from the same cloth insofar as they are all students of the game even as rooks. Not one of those guys is relying just on their God-given physical talent.

Barring anything catastrophic, these three guys are going to be among the best players on the team for years to come. Mark that down.
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Can't tell if you're giving me shit or not.

Anyway, I don't know about all that. Honestly didn't get a chance to even really take a look at either Coleman or Powell at all. I did think that Ross had a shot after seeing a few TC clips.

Just really liked the way Skyy ran routes and how reliable his hands were.

He's potentially the Chiefs version of Deebo. Do everything kind of guy that can run every route no matter if he's the X/Y/Z/H whatever. He'll probably even run/catch the ball as a RB now and again.

Then when I watched that interview with him and he talked about how invested he was as far as studying the playbook, that's when I thought he had a pretty good shot at making it so long as he didn't just shit the bed in any of the preseason games.

That's actually why I thought McDuffie was going to make it even before PSG1; that episode of the Franchise where he's in his film room in his new home and how he already had it set up with the dry-erase board and all told me a lot about what kind of player he was going to be.

Ditto Karlofogus. He's another 'hit the books as hard as possible' kind of guy.

Those guys are all cut from the same cloth insofar as they are all students of the game even as rooks. Not one of those guys is relying just on their God-given physical talent.

Barring anything catastrophic, these three guys are going to be among the best players on the team for years to come. Mark that down.
What do you mean by "making it"?

You do know why you're being made fun of, right?
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What do you mean by "making it"?

You do know why you're being made fun of, right?
Already addressed that a couple posts ago. But I'd bet money all three of those guys do make it.
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Already addressed that a couple posts ago. But I'd bet money all three of those guys do make it.
That's not the reason.

How often do NFL teams cut their 2nd round picks before Week 1 of their first NFL game?
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