Texans pay CB Derek Stingley $30m per year

[pugsnotdrugs19]

…. And just like that, McDuffie being trade bait becomes all the more possible

https://www.threads.net/@adamschefte...cUx0nlC61E-Whw

Record deal: Texans All-Pro CB Derek Stingley Jr has agreed to a three-year, $90 million extension including $89 million guaranteed. At $30M base value per year, Stingley is now the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The CB market has been completely reset.

Deal negotiated by David Mulugheta of Athletes First.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I get it, I do, but what’s scary to me is I don’t think you can get a first rounder for him.

You might be lucky to get a top-40 selection. Most realistic case, you get a 3 + 4.

Is that worth it?

It’s not like you’re getting a Tyreek haul.

Sneed showed us that teams won’t trade much for a CB they then have to pay top dollar. Ramsey was the only one who fetched a lot, and he was a prototype outside CB.

His age and ability, all we need is the right scenario. Team with lots of cap..all in on defense.

Hell. I would defer the pick even and say next year or two years first when time comes.

Teams may be all in depending on the division..say another team is loaded with wr.

[nychief]

We seem to always be behind on the market with our CBs and WRs... we never get locked in before it explodes, I can't tell if it's a ethos that we aren't going to play in that side of the pool or if it's just not recognizing which position group is going to blow up next.

But after Sneed I thought we'd be proactive to get McDuffie done... we didn't do that and now the market is even more bonkers. It's scary to think they might move on...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The only way I trade him is if I’m getting a 1. Or perhaps a proven starter at another position.

But I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Pay him this summer and you’ll still come out ahead by including this fourth year and his fifth year option.

Then explore trading him with a couple years left on that contract, if you want. Could get another 3-4 years of elite DB play and then flip him for a 3rd rounder if they so choose.

[RunKC]

I think you can get a top 50 pick + a 4th for McDuffie today as the floor. That may be a top 40 pick.

If we want to keep him, we need to pay him now and add onto the contract to make it a 5 year deal. Keep this and next year cheap then progressively backload it and either redo the contract in year 4 to backload it again or trade him for a day 3 pick or maybe a 3rd (like Thuney)

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think you can get a top 50 pick + a 4th for McDuffie today as the floor. That may be a top 40 pick.

Originally Posted by RunKC

If we want to keep him, we need to pay him now and add onto the contract to make it a 5 year deal. Keep this and next year cheap then progressively backload it and either redo the contract in year 4 to backload it again or trade him for a day 3 pick or maybe a 3rd (like Thuney)

I wouldn't make that trade. Teams overvalue picks too much, IMO.

McDuffie is better than any top 40 pick you're getting. And most 4th rounders are JAGs who only play a few years.

[BWillie]

CB is an interesting position because unlike running back it is a very valuable position. But like RB there is a significant fall off after a certain age. There are very few CBs over 30 that are very effective but it isn't quite like RB. There is an argument to be very very selective to giving second contracts to any CB.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by nychief

We seem to always be behind on the market with our CBs and WRs... we never get locked in before it explodes, I can't tell if it's a ethos that we aren't going to play in that side of the pool or if it's just not recognizing which position group is going to blow up next.

But after Sneed I thought we'd be proactive to get McDuffie done... we didn't do that and now the market is even more bonkers. It's scary to think they might move on...

Huh? McDuffie has been eligible for an extension for a grand total of 2 months. You're complaining that they didn't get anything done before these other deals were completed?

You do realize it takes two sides to come to an agreement.

[htismaqe]

The draft needs to hurry up so people can stop talking about horseshit like trading McDuffie.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The draft needs to hurry up so people can stop talking about horseshit like trading McDuffie.

Especially considering this deal was spun as something much better than it really was. The total value is more like $22.6 million over the life of the contract. It's still a lot, but we could swing it if we want to. It's not some huge issue for a guy as young and versatile as McDuffie has been. He'd more than likely earn every penny of what we give him.

We're not trading him.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by BWillie

CB is an interesting position because unlike running back it is a very valuable position. But like RB there is a significant fall off after a certain age. There are very few CBs over 30 that are very effective but it isn't quite like RB. There is an argument to be very very selective to giving second contracts to any CB.

This.

For an elite CB, enjoy the $4.5 mil. cap hit this year, the roughly $13 mil. cap hit for 2026 when the Chiefs pick up his option and then FT him for one year at likely around $25-28 mil. at that time. Then let him walk for the comp pick. Let someone else pay him the mega contract for 4-5 more years and do what the Chiefs do; draft CB's and develop them.

This is the way.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I need to apologize for taking bait from Stingley's agent and Adam Schefter, shoulda knew better.

The breakdown of the contract is now out: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_...ek-stingley-jr

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...rs-113-million

It's $90M guaranteed over five years, not three.

If you add up the cap hits over the five seasons, it comes to $118,622,366. Or in other words, $23.7M per year.

McDuffie isn't going anywhere and a deal will be done before they play a game this year.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

This.

For an elite CB, enjoy the $4.5 mil. cap hit this year, the roughly $13 mil. cap hit for 2026 when the Chiefs pick up his option and then FT him for one year at likely around $25-28 mil. at that time. Then let him walk for the comp pick. Let someone else pay him the mega contract for 4-5 more years and do what the Chiefs do; draft CB's and develop them.

This is the way.

Dave Merritt is leaving next year to become a DC unless Spags becomes a Head Coach. So this won’t be as easy as you’re making it seem.