***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by wazu

Italy looks like a massive anomaly. And unfortunately it looks like they are scaring the shit out of the entire world to the point of over-reaction.

These are the same ****ers who built one of the greatest empires in human history. The **** is happening over there?

[dirk digler]

Gov Cuomo just stated in his PC that they have gotten alot of azithromycin and the malaria drug and starting on Tuesday they are going to do a large scale trial.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Gov Cuomo just stated in his PC that they have gotten alot of azithromycin and the malaria drug and starting on Tuesday they are going to do a large scale trial.

Well there is no shortage of guinea pigs. I hope the trial goes well.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

These are the same ****ers who built one of the greatest empires in human history. The **** is happening over there?

They all smoke, party, and rub up on each other. I'm not kidding. PLUS they have a lot of olds

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Oh really?

They rank higher than the US in all surveys I have seen , the US has a pretty low life expectancy for a 1st world nation. But to answer your question I don’t know

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Unfortunately, money and power can overrule fairness in a crisis.

This, and I think there is another factor that people are overlooking.

If Mary Doe from Springfield, Wisconsin dies she is just a statistic and very few people will notice or care.

If Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Dwayne Johnson, Tom Hanks, etc. dies from this it will cause even more panic.

If rich celebs and athletes can't be cured or hide from this, people are going to freak.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You'd be wrong. Pharmacies can't get it from any supplier right now.

Because pharmacies and hospitals stocked up all at once. That's a minor issue that has zero to do with what is in stock already. I know one particular Walgreens had over 500 tablets as of Thursday. That's enough to treat 20 people.

There is plenty of hcq out there to treat the number of currently severe/critical in the US. (And that is not even talking about strategic stockpiles and military supplies)

(And apparently a bunch was shifted to New York to start a large scale test)

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by notorious

If rich celebs and athletes can't be cured or hide from this

why would they be.. ?

they aren't more important.

[dirk digler]

To keep things in perspective about Italy, by far the vast amount of deaths\cases are in Northern Italy. Southern Italy while they do have some cases it is pretty limited at least so far.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

To keep things in perspective about Italy, by far the vast amount of deaths\cases are in Northern Italy. Southern Italy while they do have some cases it is pretty limited at least so far.

Which correlates to actual population density.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by stevieray

why would they be.. ?

they aren't more important.

A LOT of people connect to celebs and athletes.

If something happens to them, people have odd reactions. They are like a member of their family. They've been a part of their lives, and even invited into their home (through media).

When Derrick Thomas or Dale Earnhardt died, grown men cried that had never met them. Prime example.

If a famous person succumbs to this, every day Joes are going to feel even more vulnerable.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by notorious

A LOT of people connect to celebs and athletes.

If something happens to them, people have odd reactions. They are like a member of their family.

When Derrick Thomas or Dale Earnhardt died, grown men cried that had never met them. Prime example.

If a famous person succumbs to this, every day Joes are going to feel even more vulnerable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction

[notorious]

Damn Discuss, that would have saved me a lot of time. I was just drawing from personal experience.

[Chief Roundup]

We need to do something about the things talked about in the following video.

from SldInfo.com on Vimeo.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by notorious

Damn Discuss, that would have saved me a lot of time. I was just drawing from personal experience.

I didn't know there was a term for it myself until I saw it posted on reddit (I think) within the last few months.