Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 61

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Chief Roundup · 10-20-2018, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This guy thinks Berry had surgery and didn't tell the Chiefs.

Who is "this guy"?

Three7s · 10-20-2018, 01:44 PM

Have the Chiefs even admitted to Berry having Haglund's? The one time the media asked Reid about it, he just shrugged it off.

htismaqe · 10-20-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Have the Chiefs even admitted to Berry having Haglund's? The one time the media asked Reid about it, he just shrugged it off.

"He's day to day."

Imon Yourside · 10-20-2018, 02:30 PM

Who will play a down first Berry or Thomas?

GloryDayz · 10-20-2018, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Who will play a down first Berry or Thomas?

FloridaMan88 · 10-20-2018, 02:48 PM

And of course Justin Houston is taking his sweet time returning from a hamstring injury.

Two weeks since the injury and he hasn't even attempted to practice yet.

Big $$$ players who are never available/always injured.

ChiefsCountry · 10-20-2018, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

And of course Justin Houston is taking his sweet time returning from a hamstring injury.

Two weeks since the injury and he hasn't even attempted to practice yet.

Big $$$ players who are never available/always injured.

You really want him to rush back from a hamstring injury?

kccrow · 10-20-2018, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

And of course Justin Houston is taking his sweet time returning from a hamstring injury.

Two weeks since the injury and he hasn't even attempted to practice yet.

Big $$$ players who are never available/always injured.

If it's grade 1, he probably doesn't play or practice for at least another week. If it's grade 2, he could be out another month or more.

**New World Order** · 10-20-2018, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

And of course Justin Houston is taking his sweet time returning from a hamstring injury.

Two weeks since the injury and he hasn't even attempted to practice yet.

Big $$$ players who are never available/always injured.

They knew he was going to be out some time which is why they signed Zombo

**Easy 6** · 10-20-2018, 03:19 PM

I've done a complete 180 on this guy

Tired of the drama
Tired of the mystery

Not expecting him to be a Chief much longer, even if he plays a few games this year... he was a good soldier, but its time to move on

FloridaMan88 · 10-20-2018, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You really want him to rush back from a hamstring injury?

No I want him to stay on the Eric Berry Recovery Plan and return in three months.

Hammock Parties · 10-20-2018, 03:34 PM

everyone just chill

we got the #1 seed on lockdown

we want a HEALTHY Eric Berry and Justin Houston entering the playoffs.

We do that...we are going to Dolphin Rape the Pats at Arrowhead in the AFCCG.

Imon Yourside · 10-20-2018, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

everyone just chill

we got the #1 seed on lockdown

we want a HEALTHY Eric Berry and Justin Houston entering the playoffs.

We do that...we are going to Dolphin Rape the Pats at Arrowhead in the AFCCG.

Well as long as it's a pure Dolphin rape, i'm ok with it or better than ok with it.

**The Franchise** · 10-20-2018, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I've done a complete 180 on this guy

Tired of the drama
Tired of the mystery

Not expecting him to be a Chief much longer, even if he plays a few games this year... he was a good soldier, but its time to move on

How dare you!

-King- · 10-20-2018, 03:43 PM

I 100% expect him to either take a pay cut on the off season or retire if we win the Superbowl.

The last part of that sentence was crazy to type out

. The fact that that's a possibility kind of blows my mind. All hail King Mahomes.
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09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1756899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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