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Old 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM  
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***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread ***
Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

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Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:07 PM   #931
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:15 PM   #932
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Looks like one of 'those' games.

Where we'll hit balls hard all night...except for when men are on base.

If we set the over/under on stranded runners tonight at 8, I think you take the over.

LOB - 10

It usually doesn't take long to know when the Cards didn't show up.

They simply weren't interested in winning that game. Really a poor showing to back WW.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:19 PM   #934
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It usually doesn't take long to know when the Cards didn't show up.

They simply weren't interested in winning that game. Really a poor showing to back WW.
It's 162 games plus post season games. You can't be intense in every game. If you have Waino on the mound you can take the foot off the gas a little. Now tommorrow, they had better come out gangbusters.
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Intense or not, the Cards have a great shot tomorrow. While Kendrick will pitch to stay in the rotation, if not the majors, Penny has owned at CBP, going 2-0 with a 1.71 ERA. That said, I got the Phils winning the next two, first by romp, then by Halladay.
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Matt Holiday is still pizzing me off big time. T strike out 3 times in one game is absurd.
He needs to run out the dropped 3rd strike, if he didn't know it was dropped, shame on him. Little leagers are coached to look back at the 3rd strike, he gets paid big time bucks to get on base and he screwed the pooch. He is not earning his money and he's not protecting Albert.
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Matt Holiday is still pizzing me off big time. T strike out 3 times in one game is absurd.
He needs to run out the dropped 3rd strike, if he didn't know it was dropped, shame on him. Little leagers are coached to look back at the 3rd strike, he gets paid big time bucks to get on base and he screwed the pooch. He is not earning his money and he's not protecting Albert.
Yeah, Albert was ticked off about not running out the dropped 3rd strike. I'll hold a grudge for a while from the playoff game. Not because he dropped a fly ball but his attitude and body language, eating those sunflower seeds and then you see Ryan in the dugout sitting there with his head in his hands, devastated.

But that play above didn't matter anyway. Didn't effect the outcome of the game. The articles I've read is that he practices hard, takes extra batting practice and fielding. So he's not a lazy chit but his body language on the field makes us think he is.
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Yeah, Albert was ticked off about not running out the dropped 3rd strike. I'll hold a grudge for a while from the playoff game. Not because he dropped a fly ball but his attitude and body language, eating those sunflower seeds and then you see Ryan in the dugout sitting there with his head in his hands, devastated.

But that play above didn't matter anyway. Didn't effect the outcome of the game. The articles I've read is that he practices hard, takes extra batting practice and fielding. So he's not a lazy chit but his body language on the field makes us think he is.
Albert was pissed at him for not running to first as well. You could see that Albert was going to try to take 3rd on the throw across to 1st. Did it effect the game? Perhaps not, but anyone that watches baseball knows that it's nowhere even close to linear.

Put Albert on 3b and maybe Contreras isn't so free with his slider. Maybe he hangs one trying to make sure he doesn't put it in the dirt. I think Freese could hit a hung slider with a toothpick with the run he's on right now.

Lots and lots of maybes, but if Holliday does what you should expect a decent High School player to do there, we don't have to wonder.
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Another sterling AB for Ryan w/ men on.

Bench Ryan, move Holliday down in the order.

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Holliday
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Holliday is not entitled to the cleanup slot and AP leads all but the Dodgers in intentional walks this season. That's right, only the Dodgers as a club have more IBBs than Albert Pujols (and 6 of theirs are walking the #8 hitter to get to the pitcher). Yeah, great protection for Pujols there, Matty.

Wake this ****ing team up. Being shutout by Kyle goddamn Kendrick is completely unacceptable.
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Matt Holliday's main value to this team will be if his re-signing will entice Albert to do the same. Aside from that, the guy's pretty fraudulent. He hasn't approached his early career numbers since the PED crackdown in 2008.
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Matt Holliday's main value to this team will be if his re-signing will entice Albert to do the same. Aside from that, the guy's pretty fraudulent. He hasn't approached his early career numbers since the PED crackdown in 2008.
He has had two good seasons following up his career year in '07. His numbers with STL last season with an admittedly smaller sample size were right in line with '07.
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He has had two good seasons following up his career year in '07. His numbers with STL last season with an admittedly smaller sample size were right in line with '07.
He went from a 35 HR guy in '06 and '07 to a 25 homer guy in 2008 and 2009. His .OPS dropped significantly the last two+ years, aside from a hot streak after joining the team in '09.

I'll probably never be able to view him rationally because of '09, so that needs to be taken into account as well.

The scary things about Holliday were his ridiculous Home/Road splits, and the decline concurrent with the end of the steroid era. I've yet to see evidence that dissuades me from viewing him rather skeptically in light of all of these facts.
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He went from a 35 HR guy in '06 and '07 to a 25 homer guy in 2008 and 2009. His .OPS dropped significantly the last two+ years, aside from a hot streak after joining the team in '09.

I'll probably never be able to view him rationally because of '09, so that needs to be taken into account as well.

The scary things about Holliday were his ridiculous Home/Road splits, and the decline concurrent with the end of the steroid era. I've yet to see evidence that dissuades me from viewing him rather skeptically in light of all of these facts.
He has really never been a completely pure power hitter. Low 30's HRs is probably the likely expectation with lots of doubles, high average and OBP. It that only produces an OPS of .950 like '08, I think he will be fine. Also keep in mind that he got hurt and missed some time during his 25 HR season in '08. He was admittedly quite mediocre as hell in OAK.

With the home/road splits I also need to see more games to figure out. He just seems to always play better at home and that actually includes the splits from last season. With the Rockies the home road splits are further exaggerated by the amount of games they have to play in PETO, Dodgers Stadium, and AT&T every year.

I am also probably just more optimistic about him since I saw the opposite of his playoff play for STL during the late season '07 run by the Rockies.
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