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JakeF · 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM

Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says
Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith.
Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0

The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him.

"A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes."

Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity.

"He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it."

There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft.

The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again.

"If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is."

Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that.

"I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position."

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Chief Roundup · 01-20-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Under Dorsey we haven't ever drafted a starter in the 1st.

But, hope springs eternal...

Peters says hello
Fisher says hello but a little more timidly.
Ford didn't start his first year but he has definitely been a starter.
Mahomes is definitely a starter. He was drafted for the future.

Sassy Squatch · 01-20-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Under Dorsey we haven't ever drafted a starter in the 1st.

But, hope springs eternal...

Wut?

**Rausch** · 01-20-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Peters says hello
Fisher says hello but a little more timidly.
Ford didn't start his first year but he has definitely been a starter.
Mahomes is definitely a starter. He was drafted for the future.

Peters is a brain fart.

Don't talk to me about FRANCHISE BOY FISHER...

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-20-2018, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Personally, I think it will be the Bills. I think the #22 pick that we sent them could be in play, but we may have to send them a little more than just Smith.

A weak armed QB in one of the windiest and coldest places to play in the NFL eight times a year does not sound like a match.

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Maybe a package of Smith and Spencer Ware. Solves a couple of the Bills issues, and Ware could be expendable since we got through 2017 in reasonable shape without him.

**** that.

If you think Spencer Ware is expendable, especially after the Chiefs had to trot out CJ Spiller, Akeem Hunt and an oft-injured Charcandrick West in 2017, either you didn't watch the games or your football IQ is 0.0.

Maybe both.

jaa1025 · 01-20-2018, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Peters says hello
Fisher says hello but a little more timidly.
Ford didn't start his first year but he has definitely been a starter.
Mahomes is definitely a starter. He was drafted for the future.

Peters was a very good pick. When he wants to be, he is a top 5 CB. His off the field concerns he had in college have started to show up though. They should honestly trade him this off season because he's going to the Raiders at his first opportunity. They'd easily get a 1st + for him.

Fisher is an average LT. I liked him better than Joeckel who has been a major bust. That 1st round was pretty bad overall. There were a few studs but a lot of duds.

Ford was a mistake. Big bust. Nothing but injuries and bad play. He flashed a few games in his NFL career and that's about it.

Mahomes looks pretty special but this pick has Reid all over it. Not trying to discredit Dorsey here but the Chiefs aren't going to trade up to pick a QB without everyone on board and they probably studied him more than they did the other 3 first round picks combined.

**Rausch** · 01-20-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

**** that.

If you think Spencer Ware is expendable, especially after the Chiefs had to trot out CJ Spiller, Akeem Hunt and an oft-injured Charcandrick West in 2017, either you didn't watch the games or your football IQ is 0.0.

Absolutely no getting rid of Ware.

Hell, we'd be reeruned-full of riches in the backfield if Ware comes back at full readiness...

**Dylan** · 01-20-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

A weak armed QB in one of the windiest and coldest places to play in the NFL eight times a year does not sound like a match.

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Our defense needs multiple players, you could get two really really good players for what trading Alex would save you. It really doesn't matter what he gets in return you have to unload him and help that defense out.

I disagree about the doesn't matter what we get for him part. A high second gives the team the ability to draft an impact player for the defense that is sorely needed. We may hit on a later round player like we did on Hill and Kelce. But I would rather the higher pick. The chances of getting a good player are just too much better. Unless of course you're John ElFraud. Then good luck hitting anywhere in the draft.

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

Personally, I think it will be the Bills. I think the #22 pick that we sent them could be in play, but we may have to send them a little more than just Smith. Maybe a package of Smith and Spencer Ware. Solves a couple of the Bills issues, and Ware could be expendable since we got through 2017 in reasonable shape without him.

I'm with the others against trading away Ware. Now throwing in Bailey or Ford would work. Or maybe throw them a late pick like a 5th to get that number 22 would work too.

ILChief · 01-20-2018, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

Peters was a very good pick. When he wants to be, he is a top 5 CB. His off the field concerns he had in college have started to show up though. They should honestly trade him this off season because he's going to the Raiders at his first opportunity. They'd easily get a 1st + for him.

Fisher is an average LT. I liked him better than Joeckel who has been a major bust. That 1st round was pretty bad overall. There were a few studs but a lot of duds.

Ford was a mistake. Big bust. Nothing but injuries and bad play. He flashed a few games in his NFL career and that's about it.

Mahomes looks pretty special but this pick has Reid all over it. Not trying to discredit Dorsey here but the Chiefs aren't going to trade up to pick a QB without everyone on board and they probably studied him more than they did the other 3 first round picks combined.

I don't think Peters is going to the Raiders. He'll be in KC for a while. He's from Oakland, Raiders will be in Vegas by the time he could think of leaving. He will get franchised if he doesn't sign before

kcxiv · 01-20-2018, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025

Peters was a very good pick. When he wants to be, he is a top 5 CB. His off the field concerns he had in college have started to show up though. They should honestly trade him this off season because he's going to the Raiders at his first opportunity. They'd easily get a 1st + for him.

Fisher is an average LT. I liked him better than Joeckel who has been a major bust. That 1st round was pretty bad overall. There were a few studs but a lot of duds.

Ford was a mistake. Big bust. Nothing but injuries and bad play. He flashed a few games in his NFL career and that's about it.

Mahomes looks pretty special but this pick has Reid all over it. Not trying to discredit Dorsey here but the Chiefs aren't going to trade up to pick a QB without everyone on board and they probably studied him more than they did the other 3 first round picks combined.

off the field concerns? wtf has he done off the field? when he's not in a Chiefs uniform, the dude has not had any problems. If any, i see him doing community work with kids!. Does he lose his temper in game? sometimes, but off the field problem? huh?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-20-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Dreams and wishes abound!

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If I had to bet, he goes to either CLE or ARZ for a 2nd + 4th.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think his value is a 2nd but everyone knows we're moving on.

We won't get a 2nd...

You could get a second but you won't get much else beyond that. Age and performance issues make Smith a QB that ONLY a team sitting in the scrap heap would make such an investment for. You KNOW he's not taking your team on a deep run post-season, but he CAN produce those world famous, Lil' Chiefy-lovin' "winning seasons"( above .500, brah! )for you.
And I'm sure any team sitting in the shit pile would be happy to wipe their asses with Smith's "talent", and get on up to..."respectability".

Ugh...

RunKC · 01-20-2018, 04:50 PM

AJ Feely-2nd
Donovan McNabb-2nd
Kevin Kolb-2nd

Alex Smith had a better year than all those guys in their final years with Andy. We should be able to get a 2nd for Alex.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-20-2018, 04:52 PM

You trade away Smith you are looking at paying $5-10 million for a decent backup. So you save how much money in the end??

Don't be surprised if they restructure him and offload his cap hit into 2019.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-20-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

You trade away Smith you are looking at paying $5-10 million for a decent backup. So you save how much money in the end??

Don't be surprised if they restructure him and offload his cap hit into 2019.

How are you still trying to push this?

NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. Too much to gain from a trade. They'll pay some backup $3-4M per year at most, and take the $15M or so in cap space to go along with the pick(s).

01-08-2018, 04:53 PM
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith. Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0 The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network. Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him. "A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes." Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity. "He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it." There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft. The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again. "If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is." Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that. "I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position." Author Kirk Larrabee @nfl_chiefs247
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