Let's Talk About the Bills, 2023 Divisional Round Edition

[Bearcat]

Discuss.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I keep asking myself where the real weaknesses are.

WR - obviously. But shit man, Rice and Kelce are two premier pass-catchers at this point. That's as many as most teams have (though admittedly, not as many as Buffalo). For all the talk about Miami's explosive offense, that's what THEY had - Waddle and Hill. Can you name Miami's 3rd leading receiver? Some guy named Durham Smythe - I shit you not.

2 isn't ideal, but it WILL do the job. And I think Hardman is still someone teams have to account for. I think we're okay there. Not spectacular, but okay.

And that's the ONLY area where there are real issues. The defense, top to bottom and left to right, is solid as a rock. Not a single obvious flaw. They can do anything and they're coached by a guy who seems to be in complete control of his instrument and has been all year.

The OL is good. Nobody is ever happy with the OL here in KC because we saw the mountaintop in the DV years. No, the OL isn't THAT good - but I think we probably have the best offensive line left in the playoffs at this point. We have two above average pass blocking OTs and a very versatile and capable interior line. Should we be running the ball through the C gap a lot? No, no we should not. But that's not our style anyway.

I don't see an achilles heel here. I don't see anything that can be exploited. It's just a deep, well coached, very experienced football team.

i would argue buffalo has one premier pass catcher while we have two. they have better depth than we do, tho.

[RunKC]

Red zone offense is the biggest weakness to me. Teams know we can move the ball but struggle to finish once we get in the red zone. It's been a major problem all season.

Have a feeling we won't be able to settle for FG's this Sunday if we wanna win. Feels like a 27-24 type game to me

[Eleazar]

Forecast is now partly cloudy and 25 degrees

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by room152

Hard to argue those hard facts. Here's a fun fact: The Chiefs Defense gives up 10 more points on the road than it does at home. That's a huge split. One of the biggest in the league.

But … that is not a fact. The Chiefs gave up an average of 18.25 PPG on the road. They gave up 15.875 PPG at home.

I don’t know where you’re getting that idea, but it is stone-cold wrong.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

I think there's probably a lot more pressure on the Bills than the Chiefs

Like no one is expecting the Chiefs to repeat, hell a sizeable portion of this board didn't think the Chiefs were going to win a playoff game. If the Chiefs lose then the narrative will be you can't win every playoff game and you can't win a superbowl every year. The Chiefs are still good except for their WRs down this year, no one is going to call the chiefs frauds for not repeating with an offence that despite having Mahomes and Kelce was middle of the pack and lead the league in drops. Like that's not a post season choke job.

Bills on the other hand are the favorites, at home, facing a team that has killed their post season multiple times and who is finally having a down year. This is the year that the bills are finally supposed to be able to beat the chiefs and maybe make a superbowl. peopel were talking about Allen being an MVP. The expectations are huge. McDermott will get fired if the they lose lol there's a lot of pressure to win this

Let’s hope Harbaugh takes a job before they fire McDumbass on Monday morning. Harbaugh would do really well with that roster.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by room152

Hard to argue those hard facts. Here's a fun fact: The Chiefs Defense gives up 10 more points on the road than it does at home. That's a huge split. One of the biggest in the league.

False. Chiefs are giving up an average of 16.4 points at home and 18.3 points on the road this season.

GTFO with that shit.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I keep asking myself where the real weaknesses are.

WR - obviously. But shit man, Rice and Kelce are two premier pass-catchers at this point. That's as many as most teams have (though admittedly, not as many as Buffalo). For all the talk about Miami's explosive offense, that's what THEY had - Waddle and Hill. Can you name Miami's 3rd leading receiver? Some guy named Durham Smythe - I shit you not.

2 isn't ideal, but it WILL do the job. And I think Hardman is still someone teams have to account for. I think we're okay there. Not spectacular, but okay.

And that's the ONLY area where there are real issues. The defense, top to bottom and left to right, is solid as a rock. Not a single obvious flaw. They can do anything and they're coached by a guy who seems to be in complete control of his instrument and has been all year.

The OL is good. Nobody is ever happy with the OL here in KC because we saw the mountaintop in the DV years. No, the OL isn't THAT good - but I think we probably have the best offensive line left in the playoffs at this point. We have two above average pass blocking OTs and a very versatile and capable interior line. Should we be running the ball through the C gap a lot? No, no we should not. But that's not our style anyway.

I don't see an achilles heel here. I don't see anything that can be exploited. It's just a deep, well coached, very experienced football team.

The Achilles heel is self inflicted mistakes. You can point to almost all our losses this year and there's either a critical penalty, drop, or turnover (or a combination) that led to us losing a close game.

I just hope we continue to avoid them, or keep them to a minimum. And that part I think is just luck, hope the football gods are on your side.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

i would argue buffalo has one premier pass catcher while we have two. they have better depth than we do, tho.

Kincaid is really good - hasn't had the opportunities Rice has had.

Stand Kelce/Rice vs. Diggs/Kincaid and I'd hate to have to make a living off the difference. That's a pretty comparable duo, IMO.

And as noted, past that they have a lot more going for them. Especially with the emergence of Shakir. That shit's just annoying right there. Same class as Skyy Moore - drafted 3 rounds later and doesn't suck.

Damn damn damn. Just salt in the wound.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

This is only the second time in his career Mahomes is not the favorite to win a playoff game. He put the team on his back in that previous one.

The question for me is whether Allen reverts to forcing things because of the pressure of this game. Their new OC Brady has done a nice job reigning Allen in with his scheme. If that continues, and the Bills get everyone except Bernard and Benford back, I still see it as slight edge Chiefs due to the better overall roster and Mahomes.

When the pressure was in in Miami to win that game, he shit down his leg. But was bailed out in the end. Let him play like he did in that high stakes game, against this defense, and it’ll be a blowout! Spags is gonna have him wide eyed, and the pressure he sends is gonna be relentless. I don’t see Buffalo scoring 21 against this D.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by room152

Hard to argue those hard facts. Here's a fun fact: The Chiefs Defense gives up 10 more points on the road than it does at home. That's a huge split. One of the biggest in the league.

We just gave up 7 so most here are predicting Bills don’t hit 20-21 points. Seems to be below the 17 when you add 10 to the best offense in footballs total last week??

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

False. Chiefs are giving up an average of 16.4 points at home and 18.3 points on the road this season.

GTFO with that shit.

And we gifted the Broncos several extremely short fields with unforced turnovers in that loss in Denver...

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kincaid is really good - hasn't had the opportunities Rice has had.

Stand Kelce/Rice vs. Diggs/Kincaid and I'd hate to have to make a living off the difference. That's a pretty comparable duo, IMO.

And as noted, past that they have a lot more going for them. Especially with the emergence of Shakir. That shit's just annoying right there. Same class as Skyy Moore - drafted 3 rounds later and doesn't suck.

Damn damn damn. Just salt in the wound.

If it makes you feel any better, I’m sure there were 10+ shitbag running backs taken ahead of Pacheco that year.

I comfort myself by pretending Pacheco was a second round RB and Moore was a 7th round WR.

Can you believe a 7th round WR had a big punt return in the AFCCG last year and scored a TD in the Super Bowl? Crazy shit.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I keep asking myself where the real weaknesses are.

WR - obviously. But shit man, Rice and Kelce are two premier pass-catchers at this point. That's as many as most teams have (though admittedly, not as many as Buffalo). For all the talk about Miami's explosive offense, that's what THEY had - Waddle and Hill. Can you name Miami's 3rd leading receiver? Some guy named Durham Smythe - I shit you not.

2 isn't ideal, but it WILL do the job. And I think Hardman is still someone teams have to account for. I think we're okay there. Not spectacular, but okay.

And that's the ONLY area where there are real issues. The defense, top to bottom and left to right, is solid as a rock. Not a single obvious flaw. They can do anything and they're coached by a guy who seems to be in complete control of his instrument and has been all year.

The OL is good. Nobody is ever happy with the OL here in KC because we saw the mountaintop in the DV years. No, the OL isn't THAT good - but I think we probably have the best offensive line left in the playoffs at this point. We have two above average pass blocking OTs and a very versatile and capable interior line. Should we be running the ball through the C gap a lot? No, no we should not. But that's not our style anyway.

I don't see an achilles heel here. I don't see anything that can be exploited. It's just a deep, well coached, very experienced football team.

The ONLY thing that concerns me is what has plagued this team all year.

Drops and penalties.

Play a relatively clean game in that regard, and I don't think Buffalo has a chance.

EDIT: Sorry Bl00dyBizkitz, missed your post.

[room152]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

But … that is not a fact. The Chiefs gave up an average of 18.25 PPG on the road. They gave up 15.875 PPG at home.

I don’t know where you’re getting that idea, but it is stone-cold wrong.

sorry i misspoke, the stat is the Chiefs give up a additional 10.8 expected points per 60 plays on the road vs. arrowhead. Meaning their pass defense is much better at home than on the road. The biggest split difference in the entire NFL.

[room152]

Is this fun fact true. Mahomes had 10 TD's & 8 picks on the road this year?