***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[tk13]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

I get that...but what you are proposing is massive testing of people who sho zero signs...thats the entire population.....we will never achieve that...we will never have the ability to do it nor will people allow themselves to be tested

I get that. But that's what it's going to take. Which is why I said your method is a fair option. The thing spreads before you know you have it. Getting tested when you have symptoms means it's probably too late. It's like giving an airbag to someone after their car has already hit the pole.

I didn't think we'd ever shut everything down for a couple weeks because of the damage it'd do to the economy. To be fair some countries are just doing super frequent temperature checks, but I don't think we'd go for that either.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Ironic. Ponte Vedra Beach today, Sunday afternoon, March 22, 2020.

Way to go, #COVIDIOTS !#StayAtHomeFL #StayHome #FloridaLockdown#COVID19 #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/kyrZZ5rJcd

— Terri ⚖ ⚜ 🎸✌🌴 (@LilPolkSalad) March 22, 2020

****ing DeSantis...

Better than living under virtual house arrest.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Better than living under virtual house arrest.

not really you will change your tune when the Hospitals are getting overwhelmed.


and Trust me when I say this the house arrest here in Cali is far too tame People are not following it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

every state has big cities gochiefs.

I would bet money Fargo has a few cases.

Then they can make that decision for themselves.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

If that's the case, do they fall into the 80% mild category?

Theoretically they would. But you don’t know who they are so they don’t get classified.

That makes the death rate a lot lower.

There’s also some interesting things I’ve read on the Italian death rate. It’s kinda how they classify it so it’s a bit of an exaggeration imo

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

every state has big cities gochiefs.

I would bet money Fargo has a few cases.

Do you have any idea the additional issues we'd be faced with if the entire ****ing country was locked down?



Can your little pea brain comprehend that?

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Then they can make that decision for themselves.

except that's not ****ing working.

I see people partying out side of my house down the street almost every night.


it needs to come from a federal level with an actual punishment for breaking.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

not really you will change your tune when the Hospitals are getting overwhelmed.


and Trust me when I say this the house arrest here in Cali is far too tame People are not following it.

Not at all.

It’s almost like we need to have 10,000 people infected daily and thousands dying before people realize there’s actually a reason for this.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Then they can make that decision for themselves.

Thank god the people who are making those decisions aren't over reactive spazzes like him. I swear to god he was repeatedly dropped on his head as a child.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

except that's not ****ing working.

I see people partying out side of my house down the street almost every night.

it needs to come from a federal level with an actual punishment for breaking.

inviting the totalitarian state with open arms

you are really scary sometimes

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Do you have any idea the additional issues we'd be faced with if the entire ****ing country was locked down?

Can your little pea brain comprehend that?

It’s going to happen. Just a matter of whether or not you want this spinning out of control before it happens. The only control we have, absent a miracle cure, is to slow the rate of infection on the front and the number of ventilators on the back.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It’s going to happen. Just a matter of whether or not you want this spinning out of control before it happens. The only control we have, absent a miracle cure, is to slow the rate of infection on the front and the number of ventilators on the back.

If it does this country will become hell on earth. I'd rather die.



Y'all act like nothing is being done.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

inviting the totalitarian state with open arms

you are really scary sometimes

better than letting a virus run wild.

[TLO]

Here's a fun idea. Stop engaging with oaklandhater. Don't quote him. Don't respond to him. Just pretend he doesn't exist.

(Or put him on ignore like I did)

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

If it does this country will become hell on earth. I'd rather die.



Y'all act like nothing is being done.

Then die i'm so ****ing sick of this american exceptionalism bullshit.


We are no better than the rest of the world and THE REST OF THE WORLD IS SHUTTING DOWN.

the faster we shut down the faster life can back to ****ing normal.