***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Demonpenz]

ME : Sean Paul do you have a fever?
Sean Paul. I GOT THE RIGHT TEMPERATURE TO SHELTER YOU FROM THE STORM

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I've been checking my temp twice a day all week. But I work for a health system and I am around people that are in or around people in hospitals all the time.

Same here. I usually run 97.6-8 ish. Hit 99.3 the other day, that’s been my high temp.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Same here. I usually run 97.6-8 ish. Hit 99.3 the other day, that’s been my high temp.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Will be interesting to go back and check on these so called predictions. Quite scary if indeed true.

KS: 25k hospitalizations May 14th.
MO: 52k hospitalizations May 22nd.
CA: 342k hospitalizations May 10th
NE: 17k hospitalizations May 14th.
TX: 252k hospitalizations May 18th.
FL: 185k hospitalizations May 14th.

The CA numbers seem way high given the state of CA is locked down.

Then again, no one is paying any attention to all of the warnings so it’s possible the social distancing fails and we end up with 1.6 million cases (which is about what we’d need for that many hospitalizations).

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by nychief

Man, I really want to be able to go to the party cove at Table Rock this weekend....despite the worldwide epidemic. These party colors don't run!

Know how I know you're a ****ing dumbass?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Look no further than OH and the people that are like him. And I don't think you are genuinely curious. I think you just want to flip shit my way.

You're exaggerating as usual because someone disagrees with you.

Look you are not Dr Fauci. You have no idea how this is going to turn out and even he said himself he doesn't know everything either. So it's best we are all as cautious as possible until this is over. It could save lives.

He and other medical professionals have said they are confident it is going to peak and then start to go down. But when it is going to peak, how many people are going to die, get infected etc.. is anyone's guess.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

Disease? I "have" OCD, although it's more accurate to call mine OCO. I've never thought of it as a disease.

We're all gonna be OCD after this. Howie Mandel is a visionary genius decades ahead of his time.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I've been checking my temp twice a day all week. But I work for a health system and I am around people that are in or around people in hospitals all the time.

Do any of you use a pulse oxymeter to track oxygen levels?

They were on TV saying that can help determine if you’re losing lung function — I have one but no idea if it’s BS or not.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

We're all gonna be OCD after this. Howie Mandel is a visionary genius decades ahead of his time.

I picture him hanging in a Bacta vat of Purelle right now...

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

175k people left Wuhan in 1 day in January, many carrying the virus https://t.co/j9MykTFUzl

— Gillian Turner (@GillianHTurner) March 23, 2020

I heard a quote by some pandemic expert to the effect that whatever we do will before hand seem to drastic, and afterward seem insufficient.

I think that's always going to be the case to some degree in these things.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You're exaggerating as usual because someone disagrees with you.

Look you are not Dr Fauci. You have no idea how this is going to turn out and even he said himself he doesn't know everything either. So it's best we are all as cautious as possible until this is over. It could save lives.

He and other medical professionals have said they are confident it is going to peak and then start to go down. But when it is going to peak, how many people are going to die, get infected etc.. is anyone's guess.

I never said I was Dr Fauci. So once again all you want to do is flip shit my way. I am very, very aware of what he and other medical professionals are saying, contrary to what you may think.

And you're being a dick, as usual.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You're exaggerating as usual because someone disagrees with you.

Look you are not Dr Fauci. You have no idea how this is going to turn out and even he said himself he doesn't know everything either. So it's best we are all as cautious as possible until this is over. It could save lives.

He and other medical professionals have said they are confident it is going to peak and then start to go down. But when it is going to peak, how many people are going to die, get infected etc.. is anyone's guess.

Pete is pretty awful for the most part and seems like the type that is always right and never admits he's wrong.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Do any of you use a pulse oxymeter to track oxygen levels?

They were on TV saying that can help determine if you’re losing lung function — I have one but no idea if it’s BS or not.

We’ve got multiple

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You're exaggerating as usual because someone disagrees with you.

Look you are not Dr Fauci. You have no idea how this is going to turn out and even he said himself he doesn't know everything either. So it's best we are all as cautious as possible until this is over. It could save lives.

He and other medical professionals have said they are confident it is going to peak and then start to go down. But when it is going to peak, how many people are going to die, get infected etc.. is anyone's guess.

Good advice. Great post.

A friend just told me his mother was just admitted to ICU with cough and fever. This bug is terrible and it’s going to do a lot of damage to a lot of families before this is all over.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Do any of you use a pulse oxymeter to track oxygen levels?

They were on TV saying that can help determine if you’re losing lung function — I have one but no idea if it’s BS or not.

No, and no one has been directed by our system to do so. Patient facing staff are required to take their temp before they leave for work and after they return every day. That has been the extent of it thus far.