Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[Kiimo]

This quote on Zach Baun makes me take pause: "To take a guy in the first round at a position he’s never played is kind of bizarre. You’re not talking about a tackle playing guard. You’re talking about a defensive end playing inside linebacker. That’s a whole different world.”


Woof. Yeah I'd be real uneasy about this. That's a potential miss among the linebackers.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

This quote on Zach Baun makes me take pause: "To take a guy in the first round at a position he’s never played is kind of bizarre. You’re not talking about a tackle playing guard. You’re talking about a defensive end playing inside linebacker. That’s a whole different world.”


Woof. Yeah I'd be real uneasy about this. That's a potential miss among the linebackers.

Baun looks like a SAM backer to me and that's not an easy transition at all. Lots of responsibilities there.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Probably take next year's 2 to get any meaningful traction. I'd rather keep this year's 2 and 3 given the depth of the class.

I'd probably just spin the wheel and take my chances, though. With so many good CB options and even possible DE guys that could slip, your consolation prize is likely to be pretty good.

Agreed. I’ve been doing mocks to play out the different scenarios and I just don’t see any way there isn’t somebody at EDGE, LB, CB, or S that’s worth taking at 32.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Agreed. I’ve been doing mocks to play out the different scenarios and I just don’t see any way there isn’t somebody at EDGE, LB, CB, or S that’s worth taking at 32.

I'm also pretty reluctant to trade back though.

Because by the 36-38ish range, you're counting on luck before you fall into that pool of pretty evenly matched guys that runs through 60-70.

There's a ton of risk in a trade back, IMO.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Fill in with some UDFAs and run that shit back.

As previously mentioned, the problem with the Chiefs signing UDFA's, besides all of the medical issues, is that there are very few roster spots available.

I would imagine that outside of a couple positions, agents will steer their clients away from the Chiefs because those players will have a much better chance to make another team's 55.

That's just another reason why the absence of a 6th and 7th hurts the Chiefs this year.

[Kiimo]

Didn't they expand the rosters though? And the practice squad size?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

As previously mentioned, the problem with the Chiefs signing UDFA's, besides all of the medical issues, is that there are very few roster spots available.

I would imagine that outside of a couple positions, agents will steer their clients away from the Chiefs because those players will have a much better chance to make another team's 55.

That's just another reason why the absence of a 6th and 7th hurts the Chiefs this year.

If you're an agent w/ a skill position player, the Chiefs are a FANTASTIC landing spot. Lots of turnover inevitable at WR in the next 2 years and a RB room that's wide open in the near and long terms. No real backup TE apart from some flyers and a coach who likes to use different kinds of guys in those roles anyway.

I disagree completely - this is an offense that can make guys look outstanding and has a proven track record of getting production beyond a guys initial standing. The first contract will be nominal either way so it will be the 2nd deal that matters for those guys.

And over the next 2-3 seasons (when a guy's due for his second deal) a skill position player will have a far greater chance to demonstrate his ability here than he would most places. CB and LB is a similar situation given the performance of the defensive coaching staff in '19.

Roster spot limitations cut both ways - your position is that we'd like to have last day picks to fill 'em, mine is that by NOT having those picks, we stay in the running for those UDFAs because those guys are all on equal standing to win the roles.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

So if Murray, Queen and Delpit are there at 32. Who are you taking?

Queen.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I heard that Gibson is getting a lot of hype from inside the league and has propelled himself from 3rd rd to late 2nd. I’ll have to find the tweet, but it said everybody loves this kid.

Maybe that could be our guy at 63? Just don’t see him being there at our pick in the 3rd.

I agree. His stock is high enough that someone will have to take a risk to draft him, by that I mean taking him fairly high for his lack of experience.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

This quote on Zach Baun makes me take pause: "To take a guy in the first round at a position he’s never played is kind of bizarre. You’re not talking about a tackle playing guard. You’re talking about a defensive end playing inside linebacker. That’s a whole different world.”


Woof. Yeah I'd be real uneasy about this. That's a potential miss among the linebackers.

But he has played off the ball at times and between that and Senior Bowl week, he’s shown he’s capable of that transition.

[Kiimo]

I mean, maybe. That seems like a small sample size to then draft him in the first and hand the keys to the defense to him.

There are a lot of guys I'd rather have than Baun in the first round. If Veach drafts him though, expect me to not worry. Obviously he'll have thoroughly vetted him and come to the conclusion that he can do it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I agree. His stock is high enough that someone will have to take a risk to draft him, by that I mean taking him fairly high for his lack of experience.

Maybe have to take a 'Hardman' sort of flyer on him.

Veach pretty much said "**** the production; gimme some tools" and grabbed Hardman at least a round before predicted. And those tools translated immediately in at least a gadget sort of role.

It'll be interesting to see if the downside of that equation presents itself over the coming years. We still don't know if he can play with the polish to be a true X in this offense and that's why he wasn't widely projected to go as early as he did. Whereas someone like McLauren would've probably made Watkins expendable as early as this season.

Not often that both the upside and downside to a player emerges so quickly. The good news is that demonstrating the upside is the hardest part; the downsides can often be handled through coaching and experience.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Draft tidbits:
— The player teams just like the best seems to #OU LB Kenneth Murray. No negative words on him.
— #Louisville LT Mekhi Becton is the player scouts get most excited about. Potential.
— #UGA OT Andrew Thomas is the player most overlooked publicly who goes highest.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 21, 2020

More draft tidbits:
— Sweet spot for the RBs is 26-32. Could see 1 or 2 taken there, with many (not all) having D'Andre Swift as 1.
— GM told me he has more than 32 1st round grades for the first time ever. Deep draft.
— Houston LT Josh Jones has the biggest range: 1st to 3rd.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 21, 2020

[RealSNR]

Based on most of the mocks out there, it looked stupid of me to take Andrew Thomas over Tristan Wirfs in the CP Mock. I just think he's just flat-out a better player. I don't know necessarily if he'll go ahead of Wirfs, but I took him for the Browns, so anything ahead of 10 would be swell.

[The Franchise]

Watch Murray go in the top 10.