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Old 03-29-2023, 08:39 AM  
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***Official 2023 STL Cardinals Thread ***
2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official

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Old 07-20-2023, 11:04 AM   #961
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This was something I was curious about when the story broke that I never really heard anyone discuss. Even without pitch com, it's not like he's yelling pitches at these guys. From everything I've ever heard about it they have pitches numbered 1-4 & he flashes that number. Since there are more than 4 or 5 types of pitches that can be thrown I would have to assume the numbering system is different for each pitcher. (like 2 might be curveball for "pitcher a" & a slider for "pitcher b" who doesn't throw a curve) So if he puts down 2 fingers how would the pitcher know which pitch he actually intended to call? Only thing I can think was he would flash 4 fingers at a guy who only throws 2 pitches.
Only thing I can figure is that you could watch tape, see that he selected '2' for instance and then moved expecting, i dunno, a curveball and then the pitch ended up a sinker. And so he looked crossed up because he didn't realize he'd called for the pitcher to throw a sinker instead of a curve.

It could also explain some of the baffling pitch selection issues/questions we were seeing when none of us could figure out why he was calling some of the pitches he was.

Maybe he WASN'T calling those - he just didn't realize what it was he WAS calling. Don't get me wrong - that's not any better at all - but it's an answer I suppose.
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Oh, and the Cardinals didn't say (nor did any of their own reporters) that he was calling pitches that his guys didn't have. It was a NYY reporter that broke that.

I am curious, however, what the mechanics of that would even BE in the pitch-com era. How does one call for a curveball to a guy that doesn't have one - pitch-com, to my knowledge, is tailored to the individual starter.

Maybe Mozeliak got the Freeware version so he could save DeWitt a few bucks...
Mr Dewitt, we really need this software for scouting but I think we can get away with only buying one license and everyone sharing it. It's going to be great.
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Mr Dewitt, we really need this software for scouting but I think we can get away with only buying one license and everyone sharing it. It's going to be great.
The idea of DeWitt having a pirated version of Windows XP w/ a sticky note on the CD with the 'office password' on it rings just a little too close to the truth...
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“We thought at this point we would obviously be much better than we’ve been. We haven’t played well in the first half to get up where we thought we would be. It’s surprising. Not only did we feel like we had a very competitive club, and I think third parties thought so, too. We were right up there at the top of our division. And it hasn’t worked out that way.

I’d like to see the team have a very strong second half and play up to its capabilities. There is a lot of talent on the Cardinals.

I think the trade deadline always activates teams to look to finish strong or build to the future. However you chose to look at it, it is an opportunity. What ways do we think we can improve our club?

I do think we have the right leadership in place. We’ve had a good run of success over the years with the current leadership group, and we’re going to work hard to continue that.”

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Didn't we get Montgomery from them for Bader?
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