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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 09:18 PM   #976
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The fact that Albert fired his agent is significant, though.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #977
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How so?
I think there is something to raise an eye at when you fire the same agent one of your teammates has. It could be for reasons that would surprise some though.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #978
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I think there is something to raise an eye at when you fire the same agent one of your teammates has. It could be for reasons that would surprise some though.
Again, so what are these reasons?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #979
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Why?

To draw that conclusion, one would have to assume that Bowe is unhappy with the job that the agent has done, and has passed that along to Albert.
Not necessarily.
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Again, so what are these reasons?
Maybe alberts pissed cause the guy is working harder for bowe than him? Who knows?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #981
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From an article last year (this year he signed Blackmon and Cox):

France's impressive client list includes Ronnie Brown, Takeo Spikes, Ray Rice, Vernon Davis and Karlos Dansby.

After signing his first ever first-round pick in '05, France has hit the big-time with top 10 picks and Pro Bowlers.

Each year France targets two first-rounders. In 2011 he hit on Prince Amukamra (No. 19 overall) and Marcell Dareus (No. 3 overall).

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It doesn't look like he's a bad agent or is doing a bad job.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:22 PM   #982
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Not necessarily.
We are talking about Bowe and his contract negotiations, and the fact that Albert hired the same agent that represents Bowe.

If you tell me that it is significant that Albert fired his agent in this context, then it certainly is necessary.
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Maybe alberts pissed cause the guy is working harder for bowe than him? Who knows?
And what exactly is the agent supposed to be doing for Albert at this particular point in time?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:24 PM   #984
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Why else would Albert fire him within hours of Bowe not getting a new deal?

I could see the agent not being ble to represent both in a contract year, because of a conflict of interests...but Albert fired him.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:25 PM   #985
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And what exactly is the agent supposed to be doing for Albert at this particular point in time?
At this point in time Bowe's negotiations are over with, for the time being. Albert can still be negotiated with.

It is suspect with the timing of when Albert fired him.
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So people think Albert fired France because he couldn't get Megatron money for Bowe?
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If Bowe is unhappy with his agent, wouldn't it make sense for Bowe to fire him first?
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Think we will ever find out what Bowe's demands actually were?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM   #990
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Albert fired France because Pioli sent him pages and pages of Saccopoo posts.
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