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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

Sorter · 07-22-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Go watch flim and just focus on McCarron. You will be surprised he is a lot better quarterback than we all thought.
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I do like his placement/loft/velocity on the flag/corner/7 routes against Bama.

They ruined that team with smash concepts.

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Saccopoo · 07-22-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy 17 Jul
There are going to be a couple of QBs worthy of top 10 picks next draft. Clowney might be the best player but Bridgewater will be 1st pick.

Haven't we established that this NFL Philosophy guy is a complete idiot?

Bridgewater isn't close to what Geno offered in terms of physical attributes, performance against level of competition and overall skill set.

The guys that offer the best potential, IMO, are Chuckie Keeton of Utah State and Marcus Mariota of Oregon. Those two guys are absolute studs and I'd take either one over any of the guys that are getting pub right now. Both will probably stay in school another year, though Mariota is a red shirt junior this next season.

Anyone that would take Bridgewater over Clowney should be fired immediately, the franchise taken away and publically drawn and quartered by an angry Brazilian soccer mob.

Titty Meat · 07-23-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Haven't we established that this NFL Philosophy guy is a complete idiot?

Bridgewater isn't close to what Geno offered in terms of physical attributes, performance against level of competition and overall skill set.

The guys that offer the best potential, IMO, are Chuckie Keeton of Utah State and Marcus Mariota of Oregon. Those two guys are absolute studs and I'd take either one over any of the guys that are getting pub right now. Both will probably stay in school another year, though Mariota is a red shirt junior this next season.

Anyone that would take Bridgewater over Clowney should be fired immediately, the franchise taken away and publically drawn and quartered by an angry Brazilian soccer mob.

Dude from North Carolina will be a top 3 QB

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Haven't we established that this NFL Philosophy guy is a complete idiot?

Bridgewater isn't close to what Geno offered in terms of physical attributes, performance against level of competition and overall skill set.

The guys that offer the best potential, IMO, are Chuckie Keeton of Utah State and Marcus Mariota of Oregon. Those two guys are absolute studs and I'd take either one over any of the guys that are getting pub right now. Both will probably stay in school another year, though Mariota is a red shirt junior this next season.

Anyone that would take Bridgewater over Clowney should be fired immediately, the franchise taken away and publically drawn and quartered by an angry Brazilian soccer mob.

BUt Teddy B is a LEADER!!!!!

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-23-2013, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Go watch flim and just focus on McCarron. You will be surprised he is a lot better quarterback than we all thought.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yep. I really like him.

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Dude from North Carolina will be a top 3 QB

Bryn Renner is meh. I just haven't seen it from that kid. I think it's similar to the Mike Glennon situation, where he LOOKS like what a lot of teams look for (Height/arm strength) but doesn't really translate it to the field. Also, he was draft eligible in 2013. If he didn't jump into THAT QB class, how good is the guy, really (if you buy into the narrative that the 2013 QB class was awful, guys who could have been in it and passed must have something wrong with them. Right?)

Also, general note... CoMOChief has given his personal (dreaded) stamp of approval to Aaron Murray. So we can all mark him off the list. Dude will be an epic disaster in the NFL.

Jakemall · 07-23-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

He played a full season.

Extrapolating based on 8 games in 2012 is inaccurate data.

So what you're saying then is any comparison between him and Colin is worthless since we only have 8 regular season games of data on Colin?

**DeezNutz** · 07-23-2013, 08:48 AM

The talent surrounding him, ironically, sets up the possibility of underrating McCarron.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-23-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

Yep. I really like him.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand there's all the endorsement I need to know 2014 is pure garbages.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-23-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Aaaaaaaaaaaand there's all the endorsement I need to know 2014 is pure garbages.

I see you've finished blowing the prison guards.

The only way you could possibly get so much time on the Internet.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-23-2013, 09:21 AM

This is a playoff team IMO

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The talent surrounding him, ironically, sets up the possibility of underrating McCarron.

McCarron is a smart, accurate guy who is really effective as long as he isn't asked to push the ball downfield into tight windows. He doesn't have the arm strength or inclination to really do that...

Why does this sound familiar?

keg in kc · 07-23-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The talent surrounding him, ironically, sets up the possibility of underrating McCarron.

Yep.

My opinion is that he's probably not just the usual Alabama QB that we've grown accustomed to during Saban's tenure. He does the same things, because he's coached to, but he's capable of a lot more.

9er guy · 07-23-2013, 09:44 AM

Ok.

What's up guys? I came on your board to see the reaction to Alex Smith's comments about the Chiefs offense.

Been a niners fan since '92, so I think I can give you some insight into what you're getting.

Postives:

He's the consumate professional. He will never throw anybody under the bus.

He's smart with the football, he doesn't force throws or throw a lot of picks. Takes what the D gives him.

He's pretty decent pre-snap in terms of getting into the right play.

He' accurate throwing to the middle of the field.

He's tough as nails. He'll take a hit and keep on going.

He's athletic. Not really fast but athletic.

Negatives:

He can be uber-tentative. He will not throw the ball deep unless the WR is WIDE OPEN. And even then he may not throw it.

He's not very accurate down the field or outside the numbers.

He's not very good at sliding in and around the pocket. If he gets any kind of pressure it's probably going to be a sack. He routinely took sacks as the starting QB of the niners.

He will not really win you a whole lot of games on his arm. There were several wins that we had where his stats were anemic.

He's just completely horrible on third down. We were one of the worst teams on third down with him behind center. He will routinely throw the ball short of the sticks on 3rd down.

He's also not very good in the Red Zone. In 2011-12 our kicker set a record for points in a season. He relies on the kicking game HEAVILY.

Summary:
He's a complimentary player. He's not going to go out there and throw for 300+ every week, or at all for that matter.

You need a strong running game, a capable TE, and a good defense/ST and he can thrive.

If you don't have consistency at ANY of those spots, he's going to struggle.

For me it really depends on what offense they are trying to run. If they come in thinking they're going to run an "Andy Reid offense" you're gonna win 5 games.

If they lean on Charles, and keep it simple I see 8-9 wins.

Smitty doesn't really use his receivers much. (He barely threw to Crabtree at all) So your TE (Moaki?) better be ready to go. Cause he's going to get a lot of looks.

All and all he's an upgrade over Matt Cassell. If nothing else for the time he spent under Harbaugh.

Good Luck guys!

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Ok.

What's up guys? I came on your board to see the reaction to Alex Smith's comments about the Chiefs offense.

Been a niners fan since '92, so I think I can give you some insight into what you're getting.

Postives:

He's the consumate professional. He will never throw anybody under the bus.

He's smart with the football, he doesn't force throws or throw a lot of picks. Takes what the D gives him.

He's pretty decent pre-snap in terms of getting into the right play.

He' accurate throwing to the middle of the field.

He's tough as nails. He'll take a hit and keep on going.

He's athletic. Not really fast but athletic.

Negatives:

He can be uber-tentative. He will not throw the ball deep unless the WR is WIDE OPEN. And even then he may not throw it.

He's not very accurate down the field or outside the numbers.

He's not very good at sliding in and around the pocket. If he gets any kind of pressure it's probably going to be a sack. He routinely took sacks as the starting QB of the niners.

He will not really win you a whole lot of games on his arm. There were several wins that we had where his stats were anemic.

He's just completely horrible on third down. We were one of the worst teams on third down with him behind center. He will routinely throw the ball short of the sticks on 3rd down.

He's also not very good in the Red Zone. In 2011-12 our kicker set a record for points in a season. He relies on the kicking game HEAVILY.

Summary:
He's a complimentary player. He's not going to go out there and throw for 300+ every week, or at all for that matter.

You need a strong running game, a capable TE, and a good defense/ST and he can thrive.

If you don't have consistency at ANY of those spots, he's going to struggle.

For me it really depends on what offense they are trying to run. If they come in thinking they're going to run an "Andy Reid offense" you're gonna win 5 games.

If they lean on Charles, and keep it simple I see 8-9 wins.

Smitty doesn't really use his receivers much. (He barely threw to Crabtree at all) So your TE (Moaki?) better be ready to go. Cause he's going to get a lot of looks.

All and all he's an upgrade over Matt Cassell. If nothing else for the time he spent under Harbaugh.

Good Luck guys!

Oh cool, another niner jackass coming in here spreading lies. Over the past two years, he targeted Crabtree more than Anyone else. Besides Crabtree who was he supposed to be throwing to? Vernon Davis is a top 5 tight end in the league. IN 2011, he targeted Crabtree, 121 times, he only targeted Vernon Davis, and DELANIE WALKER, 107 times total.

SO you were saying?

Oh, and another thing. Yes, the 49ers were horrible on third down with alex smith. The funny thing is, they weren't that much better with Kaep on third down....and he completely ignored Vernon Davis until the playoffs. So, whats the effing difference. So, as you were.

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9er guy Jackmerius Tacktheritrix Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: ATX Casino cash: $10005834	Ok. What's up guys? I came on your board to see the reaction to Alex Smith's comments about the Chiefs offense. Been a niners fan since '92, so I think I can give you some insight into what you're getting. Postives: He's the consumate professional. He will never throw anybody under the bus. He's smart with the football, he doesn't force throws or throw a lot of picks. Takes what the D gives him. He's pretty decent pre-snap in terms of getting into the right play. He' accurate throwing to the middle of the field. He's tough as nails. He'll take a hit and keep on going. He's athletic. Not really fast but athletic. Negatives: He can be uber-tentative. He will not throw the ball deep unless the WR is WIDE OPEN. And even then he may not throw it. He's not very accurate down the field or outside the numbers. He's not very good at sliding in and around the pocket. If he gets any kind of pressure it's probably going to be a sack. He routinely took sacks as the starting QB of the niners. He will not really win you a whole lot of games on his arm. There were several wins that we had where his stats were anemic. He's just completely horrible on third down. We were one of the worst teams on third down with him behind center. He will routinely throw the ball short of the sticks on 3rd down. He's also not very good in the Red Zone. In 2011-12 our kicker set a record for points in a season. He relies on the kicking game HEAVILY. Summary: He's a complimentary player. He's not going to go out there and throw for 300+ every week, or at all for that matter. You need a strong running game, a capable TE, and a good defense/ST and he can thrive. If you don't have consistency at ANY of those spots, he's going to struggle. For me it really depends on what offense they are trying to run. If they come in thinking they're going to run an "Andy Reid offense" you're gonna win 5 games. If they lean on Charles, and keep it simple I see 8-9 wins. Smitty doesn't really use his receivers much. (He barely threw to Crabtree at all) So your TE (Moaki?) better be ready to go. Cause he's going to get a lot of looks. All and all he's an upgrade over Matt Cassell. If nothing else for the time he spent under Harbaugh. Good Luck guys!
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