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Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
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Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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MTG#10 · 03-15-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

They could give him a small first year base salary - typically would be the minimum. The signing bonus is spread evenly over the length of the deal to come up with the year 1 cap number.

So they can give him the entire bonus in one check, but spread it out over the length of the contract for the cap hit?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-15-2014, 12:05 PM

Let's just keep this thread about Sanders and any news pertaining to his signing.

The 24-hour Twitter watch dog and the Tyler Wilson fan club are going to do everything they can for attention.

It is what it is, but I'll won't pay them another second of my time.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-15-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

So they can give him the entire bonus in one check, but spread it out over the length of the contract for the cap hit?

Correct. They'll get that signing bonus immediately, but it spreads evenly out over the length of the contract.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-15-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yeah I wasn't talking about tbg.

I don't understand your's and o's douche's issues with him

There are no issues with us... The only issue is that everyone else is upset we don't follow suit and wait for TBG to "break" any news on this board. I have no problem with people following him. Regardless of what he has broken in the past...everything he has "broke" in my short time here was never news to me. And everything he misses on seems to be a safe guess...

His source has made it through 3 regimes (?) yet holds a position where he/she still has access to personnel moves. That's impressive more than anything...

I don't buy into his source. That shouldn't bother you...or anyone here. Get over it.

Fritz88 · 03-15-2014, 12:08 PM

There are only 4 posts about Sanders visit here. What happened to this thread?
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milkman · 03-15-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag

There are no issues with us... The only issue is that everyone else is upset we don't follow suit and wait for TBG to "break" any news on this board. I have no problem with people following him. Regardless of what he has broken in the past...everything he has "broke" in my short time here was never news to me. And everything he misses on seems to be a safe guess...

His source has made it through 3 regimes (?) yet holds a position where he/she still has access to personnel moves. That's impressive more than anything...

I don't buy into his source. That shouldn't bother you...or anyone here. Get over it.

If you didn't have an issue with it, you wouldn't pull off the tampon to let everyone see you bleeding.

patteeu · 03-15-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

So they can give him the entire bonus in one check, but spread it out over the length of the contract for the cap hit?

Yes. That's why you can always fit a high dollar free agent under your cap in the short run. But eventually you have to pay the piper (or carry them on your roster until they're long past washed up). When you cut them, whatever portion of the original bonus that hasn't counted against the cap in past years, suddenly hits the cap all at once, more or less.

**SAUTO** · 03-15-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag

There are no issues with us... The only issue is that everyone else is upset we don't follow suit and wait for TBG to "break" any news on this board. I have no problem with people following him. Regardless of what he has broken in the past...everything he has "broke" in my short time here was never news to me. And everything he misses on seems to be a safe guess...

His source has made it through 3 regimes (?) yet holds a position where he/she still has access to personnel moves. That's impressive more than anything...

I don't buy into his source. That shouldn't bother you...or anyone here. Get over it.

I could give a shit about if you buy into his source, that's on you. but I don't get why you have to come around all the time talking shit about it...

maybe you should get over it

MTG#10 · 03-15-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Yes. That's why you can always fit a high dollar free agent under your cap in the short run. But eventually you have to pay the piper (or carry them on your roster until they're long past washed up). When you cut them, whatever portion of the original bonus that hasn't counted against the cap in past years, suddenly hits the cap all at once, more or less.

I see. So that's where 'dead money' comes from.

OldSchool · 03-15-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Yes. That's why you can always fit a high dollar free agent under your cap in the short run. But eventually you have to pay the piper (or carry them on your roster until they're long past washed up). When you cut them, whatever portion of the original bonus that hasn't counted against the cap in past years, suddenly hits the cap all at once, more or less.

In other words, cap hell.

Mother****erJones · 03-15-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag

There are no issues with us... The only issue is that everyone else is upset we don't follow suit and wait for TBG to "break" any news on this board. I have no problem with people following him. Regardless of what he has broken in the past...everything he has "broke" in my short time here was never news to me. And everything he misses on seems to be a safe guess...

His source has made it through 3 regimes (?) yet holds a position where he/she still has access to personnel moves. That's impressive more than anything...

I don't buy into his source. That shouldn't bother you...or anyone here. Get over it.

You consistently try to bait him. No ones asking him to break news. We're told a little inside insight

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-15-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

If you didn't have an issue with it, you wouldn't pull off the tampon to let everyone see you bleeding.

Who knows how to make CP cry....?

Mr_tomahawk does.

patteeu · 03-15-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

In other words, cap hell.

I don't know what's going on with Denver's salary cap, but with all their big name signings, I'm hopeful that they end up in one of the deeper circles of cap hell in a few years.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-15-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

You consistently try to bait him. No ones asking him to break news. We're told a little inside insight

He has me blocked.

All I said is my source said sanders might sign here....

milkman · 03-15-2014, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Douchebag

Who knows how to make CP cry....?

Mr_tomahawk does.

Keep telling yourself that.
I bet it helps take your mind off the cramping.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1256009	WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal By Ian Rapoport NFL.com NFL Media Insider Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes \| 2 Comments Email Print Read Discuss Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations." Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process. While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off. "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped." Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients. Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred. While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions. "When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper." Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter Follow Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
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