MU ****Official 2019 Missouri Tigers Football Thread**** - Page 66

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01:57 PM

The 2019 season brings uncertainty, as the protracted appeal over a ridiculous "scandal" with a single actor still has not been resolved. On the field, Mizzou faces what appears to be a much easier schedule than in years' past. The early season is loaded with home games before a protracted road stretch from mid-October through November.

Schedule:

Spoiler!

Recruiting:

Spoiler!

Hamas' Crystal ball sees a lot of variance. I could see this team winning as few as 7 and as many as 10 games. Georgia is the only certain loss. Florida is likely still overrated by name, but time will tell.

Official prediction: 9-3. Recruiting prediction: slightly disappointing

FIRE ODOM. NOW

BryanBusby · 12-08-2019, 09:36 PM

Just spill the beans Dave. Jesus ****.

MahomesKnows · 12-08-2019, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Really interesting development tonight with the Drinkwitz hire. Will have it for you in updated story shortly at @stltoday
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) December 9, 2019

Surely this isn't a Painter situation?

Sassy Squatch · 12-08-2019, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesKnows

Surely this isn't a Painter situation?

It's not

Sassy Squatch · 12-09-2019, 07:10 AM

So long story short 3 members of the Board of Curators flew in to visit with Drinkwitz and assure him he has their full support

Reading between the lines it sure seems like Sterk is a dead man walking for how he handled this.

duncan_idaho · 12-09-2019, 07:46 AM

Drinkwitz: I like the hire. He’s a young, offensive innovator. Yes, he inherited a good situation at Appalachian State, but he also improved their offense.

Watching their offense, I like what they’re doing. It’s what I’ve wanted at Mizzou for a long time.

It’s a run-heavy spread that will rely on dual threat QBs. High use of misdirection. Multiple option (similar to Malzahn’s system but a bit more pass friendly).

He had experienced coaches on staff at Appy State, so he isn’t afraid to have more veteran guys around to lean on.

The coaching tree is a good one - should be able to find a strong assistant group - and he won some recruiting battles at Appy State against North Carolina and South Carolina from what I can glean.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-09-2019, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

So long story short 3 members of the Board of Curators flew in to visit with Drinkwitz and assure him he has their full support

Reading between the lines it sure seems like Sterk is a dead man walking for how he handled this.

So, how do we grade Sterk after all of this? Do we give him a pass because he ended up with what looks like a good candidate, or do we barbecue his ass for needing the intervention after the floated candidates were roundly rejected?

Do we look kindly upon the Martin hire, or has he been a disappointment?

What about the South EZ? The budget?

Curious as to everyone's thoughts, because I'm pretty torn on him at this point.

Sassy Squatch · 12-09-2019, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, how do we grade Sterk after all of this? Do we give him a pass because he ended up with what looks like a good candidate, or do we barbecue his ass for needing the intervention after the floated candidates were roundly rejected?

Do we look kindly upon the Martin hire, or has he been a disappointment?

What about the South EZ? The budget?

Curious as to everyone's thoughts, because I'm pretty torn on him at this point.

F. Maybe even F-. Firing Odom in a fit of anger because he said mean things only to have the Board of Curators bail your stupid ass out because of 1. A lack of any plan whatsoever to bring a quality candidate in and 2. Having your candidates you eventually do bring to the table get soundly rejected because they suck so bad. Add in the embarrassing losses Martin and the basketball team have put forth and this guy needs taken out behind the woodshed.

duncan_idaho · 12-09-2019, 09:12 AM

I think Sterk got lucky. Sometimes ADs do. The best thing Alden did was be patient with Pinkel and have it work out. It also could have blown up in his face and cost him his job.

He had to have the Board of Curators members along to bail him out here. He ended up with a good candidate with a ton of upside, but Drinkwitz was someone he should have been talking with from the beginning.

The fact Jeff Monken made his final 3 candidates, along with Skip Holtz, is damning. The fact Troy Calhoun made his top 5 is damning.

I haven’t heard positive things about anything Sterk has done at Mizzou. He’s a distant-emotionally micro manager (worst combo possible) from what I hear.

Sassy Squatch · 12-09-2019, 09:20 AM

How did Sterk get lucky? He was flat out told his candidates weren't acceptable, then the board personally went and gave Drinkwitz the sales pitch. That's ****ing embarrassing for Sterk. He essentially had his job done for him. Why is he even still here?

DJ's left nut · 12-09-2019, 09:22 AM

Being better than Mack Rhoades doesn't make you good.

Then again, even Mack Rhoades has been far better than Mack Rhoades while at Baylor. I guess it's possible that Mizzou was the reason Rhoades sucked but man...Rhoades REALLY sucked.

Sterk's been better than that. Quite a bit better than what Rhoades was here, in fact. But ultimately I can't say he's been terribly good at all. This firing/hiring thing was handled about as poorly as possible. Needing a BoC to save you from yourself when it seems readily apparent that you'd have made a TERRIBLE hire if you had plenary authority is a real problem.

I wouldn't really have a problem with getting this hire wrapped up and then putting his job up for a vote. He's done little to suggest that he's the right guy for this job long-term. Even if the Drinkwitz hire works out, it's clear that Sterk wasn't the architect of it.

Pepe Silvia · 12-09-2019, 09:29 AM

The only thing Sterk did right was the SEZ project, Rhoades plan was going to be a huge waste of funds.

kepp · 12-09-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Being better than Mack Rhoades doesn't make you good.

Then again, even Mack Rhoades has been far better than Mack Rhoades while at Baylor. I guess it's possible that Mizzou was the reason Rhoades sucked but man...Rhoades REALLY sucked.

Sterk's been better than that. Quite a bit better than what Rhoades was here, in fact. But ultimately I can't say he's been terribly good at all. This firing/hiring thing was handled about as poorly as possible. Needing a BoC to save you from yourself when it seems readily apparent that you'd have made a TERRIBLE hire if you had plenary authority is a real problem.

I wouldn't really have a problem with getting this hire wrapped up and then putting his job up for a vote. He's done little to suggest that he's the right guy for this job long-term. Even if the Drinkwitz hire works out, it's clear that Sterk wasn't the architect of it.

All this. It seems like the BoC had to follow behind him wiping up his messes and finally decided to put him on the bench and handle the hiring themselves. I would think he has to go.

WhawhaWhat · 12-09-2019, 12:15 PM

We have confirmed that #Mizzou will pay new coach Eliah Drinnkwitz $4 million per year, which represents a more than 400 percent raise for Drinkwitz. Story: https://t.co/DAjfOwbUey
— Mitchell Forde (@Mitchell4D) December 9, 2019

KChiefs1 · 12-09-2019, 12:19 PM

Great hire

bowener · 12-09-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

The only thing Sterk did right was the SEZ project, Rhoades plan was going to be a huge waste of funds.

I don't remember so can you fill me in on what Rhoades plan was, please?

08-31-2019, 06:48 AM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	**Official 2019 Missouri Tigers Football Thread The 2019 season brings uncertainty, as the protracted appeal over a ridiculous "scandal" with a single actor still has not been resolved. On the field, Mizzou faces what appears to be a much easier schedule than in years' past. The early season is loaded with home games before a protracted road stretch from mid-October through November. Schedule: Spoiler! 8/31 @ Wyoming 9/7 vs. West Virginia 9/14 vs. SEMO 9/21 vs. South Carolina 10/5 vs. Troy 10/12 vs. Ole Miss 10/19 @ Vandy 10/26 @ Kentucky 11/9 @ Georgia 11/16 vs. Florida 11/23 vs. Tennessee 11/29 @ Arkansas Recruiting: Spoiler! Commits: Jalen St. John, OG: 5.8 RR, St. Louis, MO Brady Cook, QB: * 5.7 RR, St. Louis, MO Jay Maclin, WR: * 5.7 RR, Kirkwood, MO Mitchell Walters, OL: * 5.7 RR, St. Louis, MO Kevon Billingsley, DE: * 5.7 RR, East St. Louis, IL Robert Wooten, DE: * 5.7 RR, Stafford, TX Drake Heismeyer, OL: * 5.6 RR, St. Charles, MO Elijah Young, RB: * 5.6 RR, Knoxville, TN Cooper Davis, DE: * 5.6 RR, Melbourne, FL Will Norris, LB: * 5.6 RR, Columbia MO Dominique Johnson, RB: * 5.6 RR, Crowley, TX Ray Curry, OL: * 5.5 RR, Memphis, TN Harris Mevis, K: Unranked, Warsaw, IN Javian Hester, WR: ** 5.8 RR, Tulsa, OK Jalen Logan Redding, DE * 5.6 RR, Columbia, MO In-state talent is noticeably better than 2019, but the depth is not as impressive as the 2018 class that Missouri missed badly on. There are 7 4+* recruits per rivals, and as per usual, Ohio State has poached one of the two best in-state recruits, with Notre Dame taking the first 5* prospect in several years, Jordan Johnson. The program has de-invested in Georgia after making inroads in and around Gwinnett, and has dug further into Texas to compensate. Whether or not this is a good strategy is yet to be borne out. The previous best recruit, Antonio Doyle, an ILB from St. Louis, decommitted on Thursday The Class Rankings are in the low 50s from Rivals and 24/7 and again near the bottom of the SEC. Hamas' Crystal ball sees a lot of variance. I could see this team winning as few as 7 and as many as 10 games. Georgia is the only certain loss. Florida is likely still overrated by name, but time will tell. Official prediction: 9-3. Recruiting prediction: slightly disappointing FIRE ODOM. NOW Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 10-19-2019 at 01:57 PM..
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12-09-2019, 07:10 AM	#979
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2169655	So long story short 3 members of the Board of Curators flew in to visit with Drinkwitz and assure him he has their full support Reading between the lines it sure seems like Sterk is a dead man walking for how he handled this.
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12-09-2019, 07:46 AM	#980
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1470308	Drinkwitz: I like the hire. He’s a young, offensive innovator. Yes, he inherited a good situation at Appalachian State, but he also improved their offense. Watching their offense, I like what they’re doing. It’s what I’ve wanted at Mizzou for a long time. It’s a run-heavy spread that will rely on dual threat QBs. High use of misdirection. Multiple option (similar to Malzahn’s system but a bit more pass friendly). He had experienced coaches on staff at Appy State, so he isn’t afraid to have more veteran guys around to lean on. The coaching tree is a good one - should be able to find a strong assistant group - and he won some recruiting battles at Appy State against North Carolina and South Carolina from what I can glean. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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12-09-2019, 09:12 AM	#983
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1470308	I think Sterk got lucky. Sometimes ADs do. The best thing Alden did was be patient with Pinkel and have it work out. It also could have blown up in his face and cost him his job. He had to have the Board of Curators members along to bail him out here. He ended up with a good candidate with a ton of upside, but Drinkwitz was someone he should have been talking with from the beginning. The fact Jeff Monken made his final 3 candidates, along with Skip Holtz, is damning. The fact Troy Calhoun made his top 5 is damning. I haven’t heard positive things about anything Sterk has done at Mizzou. He’s a distant-emotionally micro manager (worst combo possible) from what I hear. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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12-09-2019, 09:20 AM	#984
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2169655	How did Sterk get lucky? He was flat out told his candidates weren't acceptable, then the board personally went and gave Drinkwitz the sales pitch. That's ****ing embarrassing for Sterk. He essentially had his job done for him. Why is he even still here?
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12-09-2019, 09:22 AM	#985
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2719099	Being better than Mack Rhoades doesn't make you good. Then again, even Mack Rhoades has been far better than Mack Rhoades while at Baylor. I guess it's possible that Mizzou was the reason Rhoades sucked but man...Rhoades REALLY sucked. Sterk's been better than that. Quite a bit better than what Rhoades was here, in fact. But ultimately I can't say he's been terribly good at all. This firing/hiring thing was handled about as poorly as possible. Needing a BoC to save you from yourself when it seems readily apparent that you'd have made a TERRIBLE hire if you had plenary authority is a real problem. I wouldn't really have a problem with getting this hire wrapped up and then putting his job up for a vote. He's done little to suggest that he's the right guy for this job long-term. Even if the Drinkwitz hire works out, it's clear that Sterk wasn't the architect of it. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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12-09-2019, 09:29 AM	#986
Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $1634664	The only thing Sterk did right was the SEZ project, Rhoades plan was going to be a huge waste of funds.
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12-09-2019, 12:15 PM	#988
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $1291116	We have confirmed that #Mizzou will pay new coach Eliah Drinnkwitz $4 million per year, which represents a more than 400 percent raise for Drinkwitz. Story: https://t.co/DAjfOwbUey — Mitchell Forde (@Mitchell4D) December 9, 2019
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12-09-2019, 12:19 PM	#989
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Great hire __________________
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