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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.


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Old 07-18-2012, 09:38 PM   #1006
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Jfc, you know for someone who doesnt know any more than anyone else here about the situation you sure have it all figured out. My more than obvious point was there could be any number of reasons why he fired his agent but you seem to have it scooped.
Your more than obvious point, you dumb shit, was a stupid ****ing point, given the context of the conversation.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #1007
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #1008
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We were moving the ball until Bowe went out with the neck injury.
Yes. But we were also missing Charles and Moeaki. If we still had those players do you think Bowe's absence would have been felt as much?

I'm not arguing that Bowe isn't important to the team but there was more missing from the offense than just Bowe.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:40 PM   #1009
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We averaged 178 PYPG without Bowe in 2009.

With him, we averaged 224 PYPG.

That's a pretty massive difference.

I'd be interested to see YPA, COMP%, and 3RDD%.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:40 PM   #1010
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:41 PM   #1011
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The BEST thing that could happen to this team is for Bowe to holdout until Cassel is benched.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:42 PM   #1012
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Your more than obvious point, you dumb shit, was a stupid ****ing point, given the context of the conversation.
Sure it was, only because you got called on thinking you knewnsomething none of us knows
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:45 PM   #1013
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Sure it was, only because you got called on thinking you knewnsomething none of us knows
I didn't called out for thinking I knew something none of you knew.

Only in your mind is that even a remote thought.

Once again, you dipshit, how is Albert's firing of France significant in he context of the Bowe negotiations?

There's any number of reasons that Albert would have fired France, but there's only a couple of reasons that Bowe's negotiations would be significant.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:47 PM   #1014
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Yes. But we were also missing Charles and Moeaki. If we still had those players do you think Bowe's absence would have been felt as much?
Yes I do considering that Battle and Pope were playing like all pros.

IMO Baldwin is not ready to be the number one guy week one. I just think it makes sense for Bowe to sit until he gets a deal.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:48 PM   #1015
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I didn't called out for thinking I knew something none of you knew.

Only in your mind is that even a remote thought.

Once again, you dipshit, how is Albert's firing of France significant in he context of the Bowe negotiations?

There's any number of reasons that Albert would have fired France, but there's only a couple of reasons that Bowe's negotiations would be significant.
I never said it was you no reading wste of space. You drew some conclusion and i said thst was not necessarily the case then you went all know it all on me.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #1017
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He had 4 1,000-yard seasons.

Bowe has 4 1,000-yard seasons.

Try again.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #1018
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I never said it was you no reading wste of space. You drew some conclusion and i said thst was not necessarily the case then you went all know it all on me.
Do you not understand context?

Is that totally lost on you?
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I didn't called out for thinking I knew something none of you knew.

Only in your mind is that even a remote thought.

Once again, you dipshit, how is Albert's firing of France significant in he context of the Bowe negotiations?

There's any number of reasons that Albert would have fired France, but there's only a couple of reasons that Bowe's negotiations would be significant.
Maybe Albert thinks he gave Bowe bad advice in his contract demands?
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Maybe Albert thinks he gave Bowe bad advice in his contract demands?
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