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Old 04-15-2020, 06:16 PM  
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Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft
I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:42 PM   #1006
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To me Lawrence is the best prospect of them all, I think he's the best prospect since Luck.
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:45 PM   #1007
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I think I'd go in this order:

Murray
Lawrence
Jackson
Mayfield
Burrow
Jones (I know this is high, but I like him)
Tua
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:45 PM   #1008
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:47 PM   #1009
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It's very tone deaf and doesn't take into account reality.
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:47 PM   #1010
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To me Lawrence is the best prospect of them all, I think he's the best prospect since Luck.
Yeah, as a pure prospect I think I agree with you. But I have a year of Murray in the NFL and he looked, at times, incredibly good. Like, future MVP candidate caliber good.

Having actually seen Murray perform at an elite level in the NFL, I have a hard time saying I'd deal him for a prospect of any stripe.

But I certainly wouldn't argue with anyone that would be willing to do so - Lawrence is as good a 'pure' quarterback prospect as you'll see. The only question is whether or not some of those traditional traits are simply becoming unnecessary at this level given the rise of the spread offenses. If new offenses offset some of the refinement and size advantages that Lawrence has over Murray, then Murray's premier athleticism can put him ahead of Lawrence.
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:49 PM   #1011
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Yeah, as a pure prospect I think I agree with you. But I have a year of Murray in the NFL and he looked, at times, incredibly good. Like, future MVP candidate caliber good.

Having actually seen Murray perform at an elite level in the NFL, I have a hard time saying I'd deal him for a prospect of any stripe.

But I certainly wouldn't argue with anyone that would be willing to do so - Lawrence is as good a 'pure' quarterback prospect as you'll see.
I'm hoping that an NFC team like...Washington or Carolina is complete balls this year so he can end up over there. Don't want him in the AFC or especially our division.
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Old 04-21-2020, 02:53 PM   #1012
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I'm hoping that an NFC team like...Washington or Carolina is complete balls this year so he can end up over there. Don't want him in the AFC or especially our division.
Raiders and Broncos have just enough talent that I can't see them being that bad. San Diego always has just enough weird shit happen to them, though...

Yeah, I'd prefer keep him out of the AFC but at some point that's just getting greedy...
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Raiders and Broncos have just enough talent that I can't see them being that bad. San Diego always has just enough weird shit happen to them, though...

Yeah, I'd prefer keep him out of the AFC but at some point that's just getting greedy...
If I was going to pick an AFC team to just completely shit the bed and get him it would be Jacksonville...
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Best pure thrower in the draft, IMO. Not jump off the page arm strength, but really good ball placement. He has solid athleticism as well and seems to be a smart, coachable player.

A Matt Ryan kind of ceiling (as he ages and his legs go) isn't out of the question with him. An Andy Dalton floor on a rookie wage scale (though admittedly, more expensive as 1.1) has value in its own right.
I would add to this that his mental processing and overall football IQ is outstanding.

Watch him vs OU and Clemson. Those teams did everything they could to confuse him and he just destroyed them. He’s advanced in that regard as well as his feel in the pocket.

I think the Matt Ryan comp does not do him justice. The Jared Goff comparisons from league sources also does not do him any favors bc he’s way better.

Burrow reminds me of Andrew Luck. I’m not saying he’s got the same hype as him or that he’s that good of a prospect, but they are just so similar in their play style and preparation. They are just so similar.
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If you want a good laugh, check out PFF's mock draft:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-three...ove-in-round-3
PFF dude is not happy his mock is being shit on...



Then another dude calls him on them having Becton in the second round and he tries to defend it.
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I would add to this that his mental processing and overall football IQ is outstanding.

Watch him vs OU and Clemson. Those teams did everything they could to confuse him and he just destroyed them. He’s advanced in that regard as well as his feel in the pocket.

I think the Matt Ryan comp does not do him justice. The Jared Goff comparisons from league sources also does not do him any favors bc he’s way better.

Burrow reminds me of Andrew Luck. I’m not saying he’s got the same hype as him or that he’s that good of a prospect, but they are just so similar in their play style and preparation. They are just so similar.
I don't think so. Andrew Luck was on a totally different level than Joe Burrow.

I've seen him compared to Tony Romo and I think that's a comparison that I like.
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If I was going to pick an AFC team to just completely shit the bed and get him it would be Jacksonville...
Never underestimate the Jets ability to completely shit the bed.

But yeah, Jags have no long-term liabilities to speak of, a pretty lousy team and a cheap QB who's easy to move on from (and probably sucks).

Easily the leader in the clubhouse out of the AFC.
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I don't think so. Andrew Luck was on a totally different level than Joe Burrow.

I've seen him compared to Tony Romo and I think that's a comparison that I like.
Yea I think Tony Romo is his absolute ceiling.

But he has such a good feel in the pocket and his IQ is off the charts, so I think he has a really high floor.

I think Carson Palmer is his floor barring catastrophic injury.
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I would add to this that his mental processing and overall football IQ is outstanding.

Watch him vs OU and Clemson. Those teams did everything they could to confuse him and he just destroyed them. He’s advanced in that regard as well as his feel in the pocket.

I think the Matt Ryan comp does not do him justice. The Jared Goff comparisons from league sources also does not do him any favors bc he’s way better.

Burrow reminds me of Andrew Luck. I’m not saying he’s got the same hype as him or that he’s that good of a prospect, but they are just so similar in their play style and preparation. They are just so similar.
Luck was an athlete damn near on par with RGIII (better in many ways) and had a !@#$ing CANNON.

Dial down Luck's athleticism and raw arm strength and I think Ryan is essentially who you end up with. I think you're selling Ryan short a bit - dude's not just some game manager. Ryan's a great passer and a really smart player. There's not a lot to dislike in Ryans game, he's just not a guy with truly plus plus arm strength or athleticism (though he was a decent athlete at Burrows age).

Burrow is absolutely not Andrew Luck. Luck's a guy you'd draw up in a lab - there was nothing missing on that kid. Powerful arm, great mind, great size and premier athleticism. If you were building a QB in Madden you'd build Andrew Luck.

Burrow ain't Luck.
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Never underestimate the Jets ability to completely shit the bed.

But yeah, Jags have no long-term liabilities to speak of, a pretty lousy team and a cheap QB who's easy to move on from (and probably sucks).

Easily the leader in the clubhouse out of the AFC.
Jay Gruden is a pretty good OC and will get some production out of Minshew. They won't be good, but they won't be bad enough to be #1.

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Yea I think Tony Romo is his absolute ceiling.

But he has such a good feel in the pocket and his IQ is off the charts, so I think he has a really high floor.

I think Carson Palmer is his floor barring catastrophic injury.
Palmer was a very toolsy sort of QB before injuries zapped it all away unless we're talking like Oakland tier Carson as his floor or something.
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