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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
![]() Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB. In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title. Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore. We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa. Now, let's talk about the offseason: LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully). First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts. Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things. If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc. I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk. Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth? Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years. Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list). Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period. The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer. I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be: 1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160). Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura) 2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016. Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell. After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart. 3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season. 4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time. And, as always, here are the Prospects: Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
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Now I can dig out my Soria jersey.
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Soria have many 2 inning outings after he left? I remember him having some 2 inning saves here.
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Dodgers looking to acquire Jose Fernandez to replace Greinke.
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He did not have a 2 inning outing all of last year. They may just end up using him as the 8th inning guy if they don't want to extend them. Who knows, they have options.
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Soria might be the set up guy but who knows
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Soria has a option for a fourth year as well
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That's my guess. He steps into Madsen's 8th inning role and away we go. Pen back to full strength (at a cost).
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Makes sense. The other thing that does is keep you from throwing Davis three days in a row. Just like last year... they could throw Wade in there to keep from overthrowing Holland. Now you can give Wade a day off and use Soria in the 9th and still feel confident.
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Welcome home!
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3 for $25M is a little rich for my blood for a guy that could be our 4th best reliever, but I'd rather that than the 3 for $22M the A's gave Madson. Regardless, should be fun having a shut down pen again.
Given our needs in the OF corners and in the rotation, it seems strange to sign a reliever first. But GMDM can do no wrong right now as far as I'm concerned, so....well done Dayton. Now sign Gordon and Kazmir and let's get the 2016 season rolling. |
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Just spitballing here...
But signing Soria would potentially give KC flexibility to move Herrera or Hochevar as part of a package for a corner OF. We've seen a lot of smoke on Herrera. Makes me wonder if perhaps the organization looks at Kelvin the way our old friend Hoots does (one-pitch pitcher, who is going to take as steep downturn in effectiveness as soon as he loses 100 mph and is more of a 97-98 guy).
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Soria is replacing Holand, including salary. This could be setting up a trade; Herrera for a legitimate starting outfielder.
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I am shocked by the Soria deal unless there is an injury we do not know about or we are trading someone. I was wanting that money saved for zobrist.
It will be interesting to see if we try a trade, what teams are thinking now when the Royals want a player before the season. I would not mind seeing the Royals also try out their new style a bit further. the goal is to not have a starter see batters for the 3rd time. With this style you do not have to have an elite num 1 starter, sure it is awesome. But it saves a lot of money and you can spend a little bit more elsewhere and compete. But if your pitcher is going lights out that game, you keep him in longer. We signed Young as a starter/long relief, I would not mind signing one other pitcher for a starter/long relief and try out a four man rotation, and then alternate the two long reliefs depending on matchups or if one is not used early in a series. Then hit them with our relief. Seems like a great way to save millions and use that money for securing the field spots Cain/Salvy/Hos.. |
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