***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Gun stores ordered shut in LA...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...4-20-intl-hnk/

Welp, we just can’t have law abiding citizens trying to protect themselves... sorry, folks!

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm 32 and pretty active. I eat right, ride my bike a lot etc.

I had a dry cough, fever and the worst body chills of my life in mid February for 9 days.

I'm skeptical that was the flu.

I called in twice this year for the first time in probably 10 years. Same symptoms as you posted.

I don’t remember the loss of taste and smell lots are reporting, but it was super cold, so who knows.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Gun stores ordered shut in LA...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...4-20-intl-hnk/

Those will get looted by the end of the week

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Donger

If you want to engage me again on this matter, please go to DC, and I will correct you on what data you think is wrong. Thanks.

And for the record for those not familiar with Marcellus' inability to admit being wrong, he still thinks a certain leader did not withhold aid from a country, because he eventually released said aid. Even when presented with a quote from said leader acknowledging that he withheld aid, Marcellus refuses to admit his error.

I'm giving that before any of you not familiar with him decide to waste your time.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

So what's the positive news for today? Italy still decreasing the number of their new cases?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So what's the positive news for today? Italy still decreasing the number of their new cases?

You came to the wrong place for positive news, buddy.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So what's the positive news for today? Italy still decreasing the number of their new cases?

Looks like Italy is going to have about 5,200 new cases today. Up from 4,800 yesterday.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, sir.

Also, I've already put towels and a spray bottle of Clorox Cleaner w/bleach at the entrance of our home to disinfect everything before bring items into the home.

we have scissors outside to take apart packages. Hand santizer out there. We take the empty boxes to the trash outside.

Originally Posted by Donger

And your wallet and car keys. And stay off your phone if possible while out, then clean that filthy thing as well when home.

we have some Lysol wipes that we use for my money clip, car keys and phone. Also on the packages from Amazon.

Originally Posted by TLO

So I don't want to make this political whatsoever, but a certain high ranking political figure in our country wants things to put people back to work around Easter.

1/3 of every person on the planet is on lockdown orders from the country or local government. All nations are taking the same social distancing approach because less a cure or vaccine, itscwhats proven to work best.

Originally Posted by tk13

There's certainly a lot of unknown cases generally just because they aren't testing people with mild symptoms.

And that likely would drive the percentage of fatal cases down. At the same time, who knows how many people died with "pneumonia" or "flu complications" before we really started taking it seriously. That will be interesting to see down the road when this is over.

we have tons of people in February that had the same exact symptoms as confirmed coronavirus people have now. We have several posting in this thread alone.

We had over 1000 elderly die from the flu. Was it? Was it coronavirus? How many? Largest outbreak is in NY and they are not even testing some in the hospital, just treating them as they are confirmed positive.

We are never going to know exactly or even ballpark it on how many people were infected or died from coronavirus.

[Mecca]

https://www.cartacapital.com.br/saud...o-coronavirus/

Man it really looks like it has a problem with heat eh?

46 dead, 2201 infections in Brazil.

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by Donger

Looks like Italy is going to have about 5,200 new cases today. Up from 4,800 yesterday.

Yikes. That's ugly.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So what's the positive news for today?

You should probably PM Oaklandhater or Suzzer to find out. If you want to hear about lack of ventilators and respiratory therapists, direct inquiries to BRC.

[58-4ever]

sorry if this has been posted, but here is a cool tracker from JH: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

[58-4ever]

The Kansas one is much less slick: https://kdhe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/op...95072b94734134

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Gun stores ordered shut in LA...

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...4-20-intl-hnk/

Given the brisk sales, it looks like the people and the government have different ideas about what’s essential.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

Yikes. That's ugly.

It' not great, no. But they only had a couple of days of downward, and this wasn't a massive increase. Hopefully it's just a blip. It's not unusual with tracking diseases to see it, even with seasonal flu.