***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You came to the wrong place for positive news, buddy.

Amen brother. This place is unbelievable.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Looks like Italy is going to have about 5,200 new cases today. Up from 4,800 yesterday.

Im actually more interested in cases localized to the Lombardy region, since it's locked off. I expect that the majority of new cases are in the more southernly reaches.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So what's the positive news for today? Italy still decreasing the number of their new cases?

Dow is up 2000

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Amen brother. This place is unbelievable.

Did you forget where you are? This board is what it is...a great place on the internet where we say lots of ****ed up shit.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Donger

If you want to engage me again on this matter, please go to DC, and I will correct you on what data you think is wrong. Thanks.

And for the record for those not familiar with Marcellus' inability to admit being wrong, he still thinks a certain leader did not withhold aid from a country, because he eventually released said aid. Even when presented with a quote from said leader acknowledging that he withheld aid, Marcellus refuses to admit his error.

I'm giving that before any of you not familiar with him decide to waste your time.

I'm pretty sure you know the stance on politics in this thread by now, Donger, so I'm going to assume that you knowingly crossed that line in this post. This is your one and only warning on this matter. Do it again and you will be booted from the thread.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Given the brisk sales, it looks like the people and the government have different ideas about what’s essential.

I think this will be the year i buy my gun.

Matter of fact, imma go do some google research right now.

I want one that's black and scary. Ha.

[O.city]

Actually, some pretty great news. Apparently the virus isn't mutating very much at all as it makes its way thru humanity. It's an RNA virus (RNA is similar to DNA, just a lot more **** ups in the code as the mRNA makes copies, but duh you guys know all about that stuff) so usually they mutate a lot.

With this one not, that's great news in that a singular vaccine can likely take it out.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by loochy

Im actually more interested in cases localized to the Lombardy region, since it's locked off. I expect that the majority of new cases are in the more southernly reaches.

All I have is this:

Number of cases...

Lombardy 30,703
Emilia Romagna 9,254
Veneto 5,948
Piemonte 5,515

It drops off pretty suddenly after that to 2,000 and less

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I'm pretty sure you know the stance on politics in this thread by now, Donger, so I'm going to assume that you knowingly crossed that line in this post. This is your one and only warning on this matter. Do it again and you will be booted from the thread.

I appreciate the warning.

[O.city]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...5b5_story.html

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So what's the positive news for today? Italy still decreasing the number of their new cases?

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Did you forget where you are? This board is what it is...a great place on the internet where we say lots of ****ed up shit.

Apparently.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

https://www.cartacapital.com.br/saud...o-coronavirus/

Man it really looks like it has a problem with heat eh?

46 dead, 2201 infections in Brazil.

Blistering mid-70 degree heat...

[Donger]

Originally Posted by loochy

Im actually more interested in cases localized to the Lombardy region, since it's locked off. I expect that the majority of new cases are in the more southernly reaches.

[O.city]

So what the **** happened in Lombardy?