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Old 01-16-2016, 05:40 PM  
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Defense is a Fraud
Benefitted from playing garbage teams and 3rd string qbs.

I knew our offense was mediocre but shame on me for buying into the D.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:12 AM   #91
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Did you watch the game?

Patriots could have hung 50 if they didn't have a rash of dropped passes.

The Chiefs had four QB hurries and zero sacks the entire game.

The Chiefs did nothing to stop New England.
The Patriots were also granted the benefit of our D missing multiple INT's. Any one of those could have turned the game around.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:16 AM   #92
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Which is the reason Chiefs need an Elite QB, because look at the average of Elite QBs on either team that get to the SB. That's the formula, and until KC gets one losing in the playoffs will be the outcome.
Russel Wilson wasn't an elite QB when he won his SB.
Joe Flacco wasn't an elite QB.
There have been debates regarding Eli Manning's status.

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, have only won 1 SB each, and appeared in a combined 5 SBs.

The one elite QB to win multiple SBs is Tom Brady, who has been surrounded by superior talent and coaching for most of his career.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:19 AM   #93
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Brady is just playing lights out, really.
No reason why he wouldn't be though. Doesn't get pressured or touched.. has wide open targets schemed out for him. I mean.. any decent QB that can hit the barn could succeed with this.

The KC defense is pretty damn good. Two problems. Injuries... and ill-timed lapses of competence.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:23 AM   #94
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And this is why you don't commit QB money to a guy like Houston who doesn't play 1/3 of the season...

We rewarded him for sacks against mediocre offenses last season. He's a 14 mil/year type of guy at the most. He is NOT JJ Watt as seen by his absence.
Yeah, because watt really showed up when it mattered.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:25 AM   #95
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Edelman didn't have many YAC today. He was simply given too much cushion at the LOS on just about every play. Sutton is to blame for that. And he never made any adjustments. It was like, hey, here's a free 7 yards.
absolutely.. I don't claim to know it would work, but I would think a cover 2 man press scheme would be the right approach to having any chance. That would help give the pass rush time to get Tom dirty and scared.

As it was.. looked like a ton of zone coverage.. leaving targets wide the **** open, and allowing Tom to get the ball out super quick. **** Bob Sutton.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:25 AM   #96
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Lightning quick release with super quick receivers will do that. At some point your offense has to step up.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:29 AM   #97
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That is pretty much it. We brought an under-manned offensive unit into Foxboro trying to beat Tom Brady. Yeah, that ain't gonna work
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:32 AM   #98
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No reason why he wouldn't be though. Doesn't get pressured or touched.. has wide open targets schemed out for him. I mean.. any decent QB that can hit the barn could succeed with this.
Then, assuming everything you've posted above is true, why is it that Brady is the only QB who's done so?
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We gave up 27 points even with the turnover and played arguably the best QB ever in the toughest place in the NFL to play in the playoffs.


Brady had 12 more passing yards than Smith, the difference is TD's vs FG.
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Disagree..score before the fumble?

The four dropped int's played a big part..they've made those plays..yesterday they didn't.

Let's just be honest..we were hobbled and they got healthy..and only won by seven points.


Valiant effort in a great season.
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:04 AM   #101
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Houston wouldn't matter. Brady releases the ball too quick and our secondary can't cover these guys.
There are ways to combat pick routes, you just have to be willing to do them. Not only that, in a league that almost refuses to call a team for pick routes, if you're not doing them you're not really playing the game.

So don't hate on the Pats and Donks for being willing to run pick routes, join them. Hell, with Alex having less time in the pocket than many QBs, you'd think Andy would have been working rubs like a wild man.

But the bottom line is a dude with an all-but broken foot, wearing a special steel-plated shoe, used the "rub" route to get open. I'm not so sure Edelman is THAT good (but he's pretty darn awesome), but the larger technique is.

Andy claims to watch a lot of tape, if he's not seeing how effective rubs are, especially with his team's challenges, I suspect he's not watching for as much content as we think.
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:21 AM   #102
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In the wild card round last week, six of the eight teams scored less than twenty points.
Yes, and high scoring games will happen against great QBs, the Chiefs need one of their own to get past mediocrity. No excuses, the team is good enough to hang around, but they don't have the QB to truly succeed.
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There are ways to combat pick routes, you just have to be willing to do them. Not only that, in a league that almost refuses to call a team for pick routes, if you're not doing them you're not really playing the game.

So don't hate on the Pats and Donks for being willing to run pick routes, join them. Hell, with Alex having less time in the pocket than many QBs, you'd think Andy would have been working rubs like a wild man.

But the bottom line is a dude with an all-but broken foot, wearing a special steel-plated shoe, used the "rub" route to get open. I'm not so sure Edelman is THAT good (but he's pretty darn awesome), but the larger technique is.

Andy claims to watch a lot of tape, if he's not seeing how effective rubs are, especially with his team's challenges, I suspect he's not watching for as much content as we think.
Good post.

Pats started using picks after a playoff game with Denver a few years ago.

If you recall, Welker (on the Broncos at the time) set a pick on Talib (on the Pats at the time) and knocked him out of the game with a hip injury. The Pats sent the video of the play to the league after the game and were told that what Welker did was a legal play.

So the Pats started including those kinds of plays into their playbook, because they're very difficult to defend.
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Yes, and high scoring games will happen against great QBs, the Chiefs need one of their own to get past mediocrity. No excuses, the team is good enough to hang around, but they don't have the QB to truly succeed.
...it would be great if you could say something else.

Otherwise, you really have no reason to be here.
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Do you guys realize that this is the only team in NFL history that could pull of the game-plan that NE had yesterday?


They didn't even try to test our awesome run defense, they nullified it by avoiding it. The only way you win is with a HOF QB throwing darts.
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