Chiefs Brett Veach Sucks - Page 7

Titty Meat · 12-23-2018, 11:00 PM

Veachs defensive acquisitions since hes been GM: Revis (washed), Breeland Speaks (fat and slow) Derrick nnadi(ok), Darien Odaniel (part time player), Armani Watts (injured just like in college), Tremon Smith (sucks), Anthony Hitchens (most overpaid player in the league) Ragland who we gave a draft pick for knee literally swelled flying to camp, Scandrick didn't even play tonight.

1.5 years not 1 impact player on defense

oldman · 12-25-2018, 09:53 AM

The Giants weren't going to give up Collins, period. Clinton-Dix is a rental for Washington. Jenkins might have been too expensive ($14.75M for each of the next 2 years). We don't need any more cap problems. I'll give you Apple.
I'm not saying Veatch shouldn't have been more aggressive, but I believe there were circumstances (Berry's return) that might have played a part in negotiations with other teams. We're going to have PMII for at least 3 more years, so I just don't see any reason to call for Veatch's head ---- yet. Now Sutton's head is a different story.

Titty Meat · 12-25-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Somebody posted a rumor on here that we were possibly interested in bringing aboard Louis Riddick as GM. Maybe we tried to get him and he declined because he enjoyed his cushy job at ESPN much more or something.

But man, that would have been a freakin sweet hire.

We should try again if Veach ****s up this next draft

oldman · 12-25-2018, 10:09 AM

At what point do you say he screwed up? Did that occur because he didn't draft the guy you wanted? Is it because the guy he did draft isn't a rookie all-pro? I'm not going to say he didn't, but the jury is still out on Watts, DOD, Nnadi, and Speaks. Given the right defense (and DC), I think a couple of these guys might be real finds.

TwistedChief · 12-25-2018, 10:12 AM

I think it's too early to say Veach sucks and should be removed. But I don't think it's too early to have some real reservations.

I think after next season we'll have a much better sample size upon which to grade him.

NJChiefsFan · 12-25-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Somebody posted a rumor on here that we were possibly interested in bringing aboard Louis Riddick as GM. Maybe we tried to get him and he declined because he enjoyed his cushy job at ESPN much more or something.

But man, that would have been a freakin sweet hire.

Interesting. Riddick was the biggest Mahomes fanboy before the season even started.

TEX · 12-25-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I think it's too early to say Veach sucks and should be removed. But I don't think it's too early to have some real reservations.

I think after next season we'll have a much better sample size upon which to grade him.

True. No such thing can be said of Ballard though - and that's the worst part of it. When Dorsey was fired, we had already lost Ballard. If CHunt had even the slightest notion that Dorsey's contract would not be renewed, he should have got out way
ahead of it and retained Ballard.

RINGLEADER · 12-25-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Somebody posted a rumor on here that we were possibly interested in bringing aboard Louis Riddick as GM. Maybe we tried to get him and he declined because he enjoyed his cushy job at ESPN much more or something.

But man, that would have been a freakin sweet hire.

Anyone who thinks Veach is going anywhere hasn’t been paying attention. Reid is the guy picking the GM. And we know how frequently Reid fires people. Dorsey has proven to be one of the best GMs in the business. ReidVeach? Not so much, but let’s see if they completely whiff on the next draft before giving them a grade.

I did enjoy all the mid-season “Veach is the reason we got Mahomes” stories — if you believe them I guess he gets some credit there but they always seemed like they were heaping credit on Veach for a pick that Dorsey actually made.

RINGLEADER · 12-25-2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

At what point do you say he screwed up? Did that occur because he didn't draft the guy you wanted? Is it because the guy he did draft isn't a rookie all-pro? I'm not going to say he didn't, but the jury is still out on Watts, DOD, Nnadi, and Speaks. Given the right defense (and DC), I think a couple of these guys might be real finds.

This could be truth too.

Our scheme really sucks and the execution of that bad scheme is even worse.

I gotta think with this offense we could attract a lot of real talent to the DC position.

beach tribe · 12-25-2018, 12:04 PM

I truly believe that if Dorsey was still the GM we would be fielding a much better defense

BryanBusby · 12-25-2018, 12:13 PM

Debatable. Who drafted turds like Russell, Eric Murray and Kpass? Dorsey.

Buckweath · 12-25-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I truly believe that if Dorsey was still the GM we would be fielding a much better defense

It is funny to see the fans turning on Dorsey and then realizing he was maybe not so bad after all.

He was always a top GM IMO.

I am not sure Veach is any worse but we have yet to see it.

Buckweath · 12-25-2018, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Debatable. Who drafted turds like Russell, Eric Murray and Kpass? Dorsey.

Oh please dont get me started on how great Dorsey has been at drafting.

Arguably the very best in the league at drafting during his Chiefs tenure.

OKchiefs · 12-25-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Debatable. Who drafted turds like Russell, Eric Murray and Kpass? Dorsey.

This. He couldn't draft for shit on defense either.

RunKC · 12-25-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I truly believe that if Dorsey was still the GM we would be fielding a much better defense

Nope.

Dee Ford and Chris Jones were the only good players he drafted on defense aside from the raging lunatic known as Peters.

He failed over and over and over at ILB and the entire secondary for 5 years.

He was very similar to Pioli in terms of drafting.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-25-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Nope.

Dee Ford and Chris Jones were the only good players he drafted on defense aside from the raging lunatic known as Peters.

He failed over and over and over at ILB and the entire secondary for 5 years.

He was very similar to Pioli in terms of drafting.

We drafted a shitload of people on defense during Dorsey’s time. Watching veterans play like dunces makes me believe both veach and Dorsey are limited by shopping for groceries for a head chef who has no idea what the **** to cook. I still think several of our players would play better with a better dc.

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12-25-2018, 09:53 AM	#91
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	The Giants weren't going to give up Collins, period. Clinton-Dix is a rental for Washington. Jenkins might have been too expensive ($14.75M for each of the next 2 years). We don't need any more cap problems. I'll give you Apple. I'm not saying Veatch shouldn't have been more aggressive, but I believe there were circumstances (Berry's return) that might have played a part in negotiations with other teams. We're going to have PMII for at least 3 more years, so I just don't see any reason to call for Veatch's head ---- yet. Now Sutton's head is a different story.
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12-25-2018, 10:09 AM	#93
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	At what point do you say he screwed up? Did that occur because he didn't draft the guy you wanted? Is it because the guy he did draft isn't a rookie all-pro? I'm not going to say he didn't, but the jury is still out on Watts, DOD, Nnadi, and Speaks. Given the right defense (and DC), I think a couple of these guys might be real finds.
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12-25-2018, 10:12 AM	#94
TwistedChief Why so serious? Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $2120415	I think it's too early to say Veach sucks and should be removed. But I don't think it's too early to have some real reservations. I think after next season we'll have a much better sample size upon which to grade him.
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12-25-2018, 12:04 PM	#99
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4728036	I truly believe that if Dorsey was still the GM we would be fielding a much better defense
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3719900 VARSITY	Debatable. Who drafted turds like Russell, Eric Murray and Kpass? Dorsey.
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