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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 AM  
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Lions release Rogers
LIONS RELEASE ROGERS

The Detroit Lions have parted ways with receiver Charles Rogers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft.

Rogers missed most of his first two seasons due to broken collar bones, and was ineffective in 2004, during which he was suspended four games for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. After the suspension, the team filed a grievance against Rogers for recovery of bonus money. The grievance is still pending.

Prior to the 2003 draft, there were reports that Rogers had generated a positive drug test due to a diluted urine sample. The news didn't deter the Lions and team president Matt Millen.

Other cuts include veteran running back Artose Pinner, linebacker James Davis, and rookie sixth-round CB Dee McCann.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:14 PM   #91
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Check it out.......Dick Vermiel posts on the board "We're going with our guys that have been here and know the system, obviously Chris Hannon is better than Charles Rogers."
I'm not saying "Chris Hannon" or any of our PS guys are clearly better. I'm saying I don't see a bit of difference between them. Again, just because the guy was great in college doesn't mean squat in the big leagues. Very nice misrepresentation of my position...almost worthy of DC.

If the guy had a lick of talent at this level, do you really believe Martz wouldn't have been pushing to keep him?

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I guess it doesn't matter anyway since we aren't going to bring him in.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:18 PM   #92
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If the Chiefs are keeping 5 WR's which I think they are...they need to sign one who's cut and Rogers is likely going to be the best one.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:19 PM   #93
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I think it says a lot when Mike Martz decides that Mike Furrey > Charles Rogers........
Umm, I don't, Martz is an idiot.

Rogers is a ridiculous physical talent and has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl WR. Maybe getting cut will be a reality check for him, and getting him away from Detroit and all his homeboys from school would help him get his career back on track.

We really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by signing him. Gambles like this help teams win championships.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:19 PM   #94
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Rogers is likely going to be the best one.
I believe Parker's sig line clearly applies to this statement.

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Rogers is a ridiculous physical talent and has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl WR. Maybe getting cut will be a reality check for him
People said the same about Todd Marinovich. And Ryan Leaf.
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We really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by signing him. Gambles like this help teams win championships.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:21 PM   #95
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Umm, I don't, Martz is an idiot.

Rogers is a ridiculous physical talent and has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl WR. Maybe getting cut will be a reality check for him, and getting him away from Detroit and all his homeboys from school would help him get his career back on track.

We really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by signing him. Gambles like this help teams win championships.
No way man Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon 4-Life!

I agree with you in all honesty....But we apparently don't need any great physical talents at WR we just need some guys who work hard but really aren't very good.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:22 PM   #96
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Gambles like this help teams win championships.
Ha ha ha, yeah. Sure they do. I'll wait here while you find an example that's comparable.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:24 PM   #97
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Hannon and Webb might suck.

Charles Rogers has already removed all doubt that he sucks.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:25 PM   #98
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....But we apparently don't need any great physical talents at WR we just need some guys who work hard but really aren't very good.
Of course....thats been Carls's philosophy for the past 17 years. Heck, it took him 13 years to finally draft a Franchise RB.
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Hannon and Webb might suck.

Charles Rogers has already removed all doubt that he sucks.
Let's not mention he was playing with Joey Harrington..... Here's a post from a Lions fan on the guy....

Wow, I will not try to hide the fact that I am a Detroit Lions fan, I will cheer for that team until the day I die, but it is just sureal that they have actually cut Charles Rogers. I watched Charles Rogers play high school football, and was a man agmost boys. Then I saw him tear it up at Michigan State, making Highlight reel cathes there. I was very excited when the Lions drafted him #2 overall, behind Carson Palmer mind you back in 2003. Two dirty drugs test later, two seasons out with a collar bone injury and he is gone. What the **** is it with the Lions, only in detroit could Charles Rogers become a bust.

Also the fact that he is from there probably didn't help he had a ton of pressure to be that teams savior.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:27 PM   #100
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Of course....thats been Carls's philosophy for the past 17 years. Heck, it took him 13 years to finally draft a Franchise RB.
Nothing made me happier as a kid than watching complete ass Wr's like Lake Dawson.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:27 PM   #101
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Umm, I don't, Martz is an idiot.
As a HC, I agree. Name 5 better OC's

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Rogers is a ridiculous physical talent and has all the tools to be a Pro Bowl WR. Maybe getting cut will be a reality check for him, and getting him away from Detroit and all his homeboys from school would help him get his career back on track.
WAS a ridiculous physical talent. In college. He's shown nothing in the pros.

IF Rogers catches on somewhere else, his "homeboys" will follow him there to mooch off of him. Detroit and his crew aren't the problem. His lack of talent and good attitude is.

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We really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by signing him. Gambles like this help teams win championships.
Charles Rogers is not the missing link to a SB run......
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Let's not mention he was playing with Joey Harrington.....
So was Roy Williams. Why didn't he get cut?
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Ha ha ha, yeah. Sure they do. I'll wait here while you find an example that's comparable.
Off the top of my head, here are some "bad apples" that helped their new team win a championship: Corey Dillon, Keyshawn Johnson, Simeon Rice.
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So was Roy Williams. Why didn't he get cut?
Post Roy Williams awesome stats.....oh that's right he doesn't have them either. Rogers is the one furtherest along into his contract also he's been suspended. But in fairness Roy Williams has also had a ton of injury problems and hasn't been that productive, he's actually more physically talented than Rogers is he's a freak.

Of course you could say Roy has attitude problems too seeing as he and Kevin Jones hate each other.
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Off the top of my head, here are some "bad apples" that helped their new team win a championship: Corey Dillon, Keyshawn Johnson, Simeon Rice.
Everyone thought Rice was a complete scrub bust in Arizona then he went to Tampa and became one of the best players in the league.....
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