Whitlock brings the ****ing axe down.

[Hammock Parties]

You go, BigSexy.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/848654.html

Now what?

The Chiefs lost their fragile and fraudulent quarterback of the future, exposing the irresponsibility of opening the season with a quarterback depth chart Rockhurst High’s Tony Severino would find objectionable.

Now what?

Today, the Chiefs welcome back to their starting lineup the unrepentant malcontent/running back who surely spent Sunday afternoon palling around with friends, laughing at the offense missing Larry Johnson that couldn’t move the chains or threaten the Titans when the outcome was in doubt.

Now what? Where do the Chiefs go from here? How do they define themselves and move forward after Tennessee blanked them for three quarters, embarrassed them for four and routed them 34-10 at Arrowhead Stadium?

There were no answers inside Kansas City’s locker room. There were plenty of stunned, silent looks and quick exits. You can’t blame them. There were few relevant, probing questions to be asked.

All the answers had been provided during three hours on the field.

Coming off a bye week filled with drama, acrimony, Brodie Croyle-inspired optimism and a get-tough deactivation of Johnson, Herm Edwards and his coaching staff bombed in a way that makes their employment here next season indefensible.

By declining to draft or acquire a quarterback to compete against Brittle Croyle and elevating clock-management specialist Dick “Father Time” Curl to oversee the most important position on any football team, Edwards tethered himself to Croyle.

When Croyle limped off the field with a season-(career)-ending knee injury early in the second quarter, Herm might as well have grabbed a pair of crutches and retired to the locker room with his Arena League QB of the future.

It’s over — the Croyle experiment, the Herm-driven rebuilding process and the Peterson-approved redistribution of Hunt family wealth. All good and bad things end, and the Titans literally ran over (332 yards on the ground) the remains of the Peterson era.

What we’ve witnessed this season in general — and the last two weeks in particular — is unacceptable and unprofessional. In its five losses, Kansas City’s opponents outscored Herm’s boys 147-42. The Chiefs’ lone victory — a 33-19 romp over the Broncos — was such an obvious fluke that it revealed nothing about the rebuilding effort.

The Chiefs are a joke right now. They have as little credibility as the Royals. The ownership is timid at a time when boldness is required. This is not a call to fire Peterson or Edwards today. It’s a call that Clark Hunt acknowledge that no progress is being made.

After Sunday’s performance, I’ll vouch for the professionalism and skill of one player on the roster. Tony Gonzalez is a winning player. Every other player is a mystery.

Kansas City’s offensive line is so inept that it is difficult for me to discern whether Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters is effective. I know that Rudy Niswanger, Adrian Jones and Damion McIntosh are not players a team can win consistently with in the starting lineup.

Also, I know that first-round pick Glenn Dorsey has been a bust through six games. I’ve watched film, and his footwork is horrid. He catches on run plays and tries to win a bench-press contest. An NFL lineman wins or loses the battle with his first step. Dorsey’s first step is slow and often misdirected. He hasn’t mastered the explosive, violent, 6-inch control step. I’ve seen Dorsey drop his foot back. I’ve seen him step the wrong direction.

On Sunday, the Titans had their way with Dorsey. On a key third-and-short play early in the contest, a Titans guard destroyed Dorsey at the point of attack, and a Tennessee running back ran right through where Dorsey was before he was removed the way a bouncer ushers a drunken customer out of Mosaic.

And someone sound an Amber Alert for 2006 first-round pick Tamba Hali, Kansas City’s sackless pass-rush specialist. If Hali has a bad knee, sit him down and un-Velcro him from opposing offensive tackles.

Herm’s youth movement is starting to resemble the last 15 years of “Saturday Night Live.” He keeps adding expensive cast members who can’t recapture the magic of Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, James Hasty and Dale Carter.

Short of a Sarah Palin/Tina Fey falling in Herm’s lap, the Chiefs seem unsalvageable.

Next season, the Chiefs will draft and/or acquire three quarterbacks. They’ll start from scratch. Would any sane man, woman or child allow Edwards, Father Time and The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl to select KC’s next three quarterbacks?

Herm’s claim to quarterback fame is that he fell in love with Bill Parcells’ weak-armed thrower, Chad Pennington. Curl’s claim to QB fame is far more impressive. Father Time guided an NFL Europe offense that featured future NFL journeyman Jon Kitna. Curl also was QB coach/offensive coordinator of some unforgettable-but-totally-forgotten 1980s offenses at Virginia, Rutgers and Boston College. As you can see, Curl’s QB resume is as decorated as Bill Walsh’s.

But it is not quite as sparkling as Carl Peterson’s. There is not enough room to list all of the gifted quarterbacks Peterson has identified. Let’s just say it would be negligent not to mention Mike Elkins, Matt “Draft Blunder” Blundin, Pat Barnes and Elvis Grbac.

Given the collective QB brain power at Arrowhead Stadium, Chiefs fans have every reason to feel confident that when Edwards, Curl, Peterson and Bill Kuharich heave a dart at a board, it is very likely to land on the NFL’s next great QB.

Now what? I suggest you spend the rest of the season fantasizing about Clark Hunt taking the obvious necessary steps to improve his football franchise.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Bringing in a bunch of UDFAs thinking that they are going to help the rebuild, is one of the reasons why the team is as bad as it is.

You can have a few of those guys on the team, but it's just lunacy to expect a ton of them to contribute.

One thing you have to do even if its through free agency is get your offensive line right. Even if you have to overpay a little for some O lineman. Get that shit fixed at all costs or its just going to get worse and worse as we have seen.

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

It's a dwindling number, for sure. Is Zouk still defending Herm?

He's got to win at least 4 more games. With Tyler Thigpen. It looks bleak.

And no - I can't defend what's happened the last 2 weeks. If it's 4 wins or less in December, it is clear that he failed and should be fired.

My guy for new coach if we can't get Cowher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

And yes - I do understood my credibility on coaching opinions is not very high right now.

[Chiefnj2]

Herm and DV took somewhat similar approaches in building their teams:

Both coaches realized the importance of a DL and used lots of early draft picks to try to bolster it. Herm took Hali, McBride, Tank and Dorsey. Vermeil drafted Downing, Sims, Freeman, Siavii and Allen. Kind of interesting that the only player to emerge so far was the 4th rounder.

Both coaches brought in their own QB's to run the show. DV did well with Trent Green, but Herm put his eggs in a fragile basket. DV built an offense around Holmes and Herm tried to build a power running game around Johnson.

Herm and DV tried to get by at LB with some underachieving free agents. DV brought in Marvcus Patton at MLB while Herm tried his hand with Nap Harris. At OLB we have Shawn Barber and Demarrio Williams.

DV brought in his share of OL free agents/trades and projects: Roaf, Wiegman, Welbourn and Waters. This is really the main difference right now on the team. DV hit the jackpot with those guys while Herm went bust with Turley, Jones, McIntosh and Terry.

In the end Green stayed healthy and Croyle didn't. Priest outclassed Larry, Vermeil's gambles on the OL paid off and Jared Allen has emerged as the only defensive lineman to be worthy of an early draft pick.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Herm and DV tried to get by at LB with some underachieving free agents. DV brought in Marvcus Patton at MLB while Herm tried his hand with Nap Harris. At OLB we have Shawn Barber and Demarrio Williams.

DV didn't bring in Marvcus Patton.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Herm and DV took somewhat similar approaches in building their teams:

Both coaches realized the importance of a DL and used lots of early draft picks to try to bolster it. Herm took Hali, McBride, Tank and Dorsey. Vermeil drafted Downing, Sims, Freeman, Siavii and Allen. Kind of interesting that the only player to emerge so far was the 4th rounder.

Both coaches brought in their own QB's to run the show. DV did well with Trent Green, but Herm put his eggs in a fragile basket. DV built an offense around Holmes and Herm tried to build a power running game around Johnson.

Herm and DV tried to get by at LB with some underachieving free agents. DV brought in Marvcus Patton at MLB while Herm tried his hand with Nap Harris. At OLB we have Shawn Barber and Demarrio Williams.

DV brought in his share of OL free agents/trades and projects: Roaf, Wiegman, Welbourn and Waters. This is really the main difference right now on the team. DV hit the jackpot with those guys while Herm went bust with Turley, Jones, McIntosh and Terry.

In the end Green stayed healthy and Croyle didn't. Priest outclassed Larry, Vermeil's gambles on the OL paid off and Jared Allen has emerged as the only defensive lineman to be worthy of an early draft pick.

Perhaps Vermeil hit the jackpot with the OL because he used guys that were suited for the system and had proven that they belonged in the league (save Waters). He also didn't run an archaic offensive system that put the defense on the field for 35 minutes a game.

[StcChief]

we will continue to battle the Lions for #1 pick in 2009 draft.... and we are a game up on them.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by StcChief

we will continue to battle the Lions for #1 pick in 2009 draft.... and we are a game up on them.

Go Chiefs! Tomahawk Chop!

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Zouk

He's got to win at least 4 more games. With Tyler Thigpen. It looks bleak.

And no - I can't defend what's happened the last 2 weeks. If it's 4 wins or less in December, it is clear that he failed and should be fired.

My guy for new coach if we can't get Cowher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

And yes - I do understood my credibility on coaching opinions is not very high right now.

No Dungver cheating zone blocking schemes.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by StcChief

we will continue to battle the Lions for #1 pick in 2009 draft.... and we are a game up on them.

Let's not forget Cincy. I don't see Detroit winning a game unless its on turkey day.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by FAX

Neil Smith benefited greatly from DT. And when I say, "greatly", I mean "greatly".

Plus, that flinch move was a beaut.

Until they outlawed it.

FAX

To this day, I often use that flinch move in meetings.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Let's not forget Cincy. I don't see Detroit winning a game unless its on turkey day.

Against the Titans

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Zouk

He's got to win at least 4 more games. With Tyler Thigpen. It looks bleak.

And no - I can't defend what's happened the last 2 weeks. If it's 4 wins or less in December, it is clear that he failed and should be fired.

My guy for new coach if we can't get Cowher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

And yes - I do understood my credibility on coaching opinions is not very high right now.

Hmmm. Well, I have to offer up a load of prop things to you for loyalty, Mr. Zouk. You have stuck with the Hermster longer than most.

Like you, I think Herm has done some good things. Unfortunately for all of us, he is well out of his league as an HC. Nevertheless, it's good to see that you have now crossed over from the dark side.

No Cowher for me, by the way. I really hope we find someone from outside the old Chiefs family. Someone young who can stay with us for a while and put their imprimatur on the franchise. Also, someone with AC experience on both sides of the ball, someone who has worked with an excellent quarterback, and someone who has a background with a winning organization.

That's not too much to ask, is it?

FAX

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Zouk

He's got to win at least 4 more games. With Tyler Thigpen. It looks bleak.

And no - I can't defend what's happened the last 2 weeks. If it's 4 wins or less in December, it is clear that he failed and should be fired.

My guy for new coach if we can't get Cowher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

And yes - I do understood my credibility on coaching opinions is not very high right now.

If we hire somebody out of Green Bay's front office that could be a possibility.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Zouk

He's got to win at least 4 more games. With Tyler Thigpen. It looks bleak.

And no - I can't defend what's happened the last 2 weeks. If it's 4 wins or less in December, it is clear that he failed and should be fired.

My guy for new coach if we can't get Cowher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

And yes - I do understood my credibility on coaching opinions is not very high right now.

my fear is that the low rent bastard will continue to throw people under the bus and save his skin. Ol Herm will snake out another season, count on it. He has tons of excuses..1st and 2nd string QB were injured...had to change kickers...LJ couldn't contribute with all his issues...major distraction with trading Tony talk...I told Carl we needed a DE and he wouldn't listen....that fuggin Gunther just doesn't know how to manage my scheme (cover two)....what did you expect with 10 rookies playing...

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by FAX

Like you, I think Herm has done some good things. Unfortunately for all of us, he is well out of his league as an HC. Nevertheless, it's good to see that you have now crossed over from the dark side.


FAX

I haven't changed my position. I've always said that he had to be judged on his record at the end of the year. I know he is not out of his league based on the fact that he has won multiple playoff games with marginally talented teams in the past - but if the record is 4 wins or less this year then I think it will be true that he will have failed here in KC.

Apart from the obvious glaring mistake (relying on Croyle), I think one question he will wind up asking himself was how could he not bring in an established offensive line coach when it was clearly such a weakness for the team. Promoting last years assistant offensive line coach who previously coached the OL at Temple? Temple? Huge mistake. The special teams coach is an obvious disaster as well. Whitlock chooses to focus on the easy target Dick Curl when Bicknell, Krumrie, and Priefer are far more deserving of blame in my opinion.