Bradford Please

[jAZ]

I don't think he's coming out, but he's my choice in the QB dice-roll.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I know what your saying, and I think you know I am pretty much in the same boat as you. If anything I am a little higher on Bradford than you are. One thing though, it's not a pro style offense, but he does take several snaps under center.

Let me ask you this, and be honest, did you watch him play mush last year? If so, he went down field a lot more, made some incredible throws. This year he didn't have to do so much.

He has a long way to go, but I just get sick of people not giving credit when it's obvious that he has some serious potential.

I'm one of the few people that refuse to make that ridiculous comment that he doesn't make NFL-caliber throws. He does, but he's not required to nearly as often as Sanchez and Stafford.

He's obviously a talented college QB, but he has more going against him in regards to becoming a NFL QB compared to the other two.

Playing in a pro style offense is a HUGE advantage for Stafford and Sanchez.

Does Bradford have potential?

Absolutely.

But is that potential worth a $60M investment and a top draft pick, knowing that he has a hill to climb right out of the box, learning how to take snaps, use proper footwork on drops, and read defenses pre/post snap?

Bradford has potential, I'm just not sure it's going to be realized early enough to make him worth that large of a financial investment.

Even Herbstreit and Corso said he's going to have a large learning curve if he does declare.

[cdcox]

Montana's arm and Jake Plummer's head. I don't see it.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm one of the few people that refuse to make that ridiculous comment that he doesn't make NFL-caliber throws. He does, but he's not required to nearly as often as Sanchez and Stafford.

He's obviously a talented college QB, but he has more going against him in regards to becoming a NFL QB compared to the other two.

Playing in a pro style offense is a HUGE advantage for Stafford and Sanchez.

Does Bradford have potential?

Absolutely.

But is that potential worth a $60M investment and a top draft pick, knowing that he has a hill to climb right out of the box, learning how to take snaps, use proper footwork on drops, and read defenses pre/post snap?

Bradford has potential, I'm just not sure it's going to be realized early enough to make him worth that large of a financial investment.

Even Herbstreit and Corso said he's going to have a large learning curve if he does declare.

I agree. Though while I agree Tebow put this game on his back and took control, could they suck him off any more?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I agree. Though while I agree Tebow put this game on his back and took control, could they suck him off any more?

I love TEbow. He got robbed on the Heisman this game proves it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I agree. Though while I agree Tebow put this game on his back and took control, could they suck him off any more?

Eh.

Doesn't bother me, the kid has earned it, IMO.

A Heisman trophy and 2 NC's.

The kid is obviously the heart and soul of that team.

He just finds a way to win.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Have you seen Stafford play? He was a mediocre QB for most of his career (until this year) and runs the most un-NFL like offense of the big 3 (Sanchez, Bradford and Stafford).

I've watched at least 6 games this year of Stafford's, and I think you're wrong.

Dude is the best prospect, in the realm of what I look for, that I have seen since Plamer.

Disclaimer: I'm just a man with an opinion.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

WTF?

Try educating yourself about how overrated Stafford is and how (until late last season) he was considered a disappointment... considering how highly recruited he was coming out of high school.

Stafford completed barely over 55% of his passes last season and was horrible his freshman year (52% completion %, 7 TDs compared to 13 INTs).

In his two biggest games of the season this year... against Alabama and Florida (the two most NFL-caliber defenses he faced this year) Stafford was average at best (completing just over 57% of his passes) against Alabama and was horrible (under 55% completion %, 0 TD and 3 INTs) against Florida.

Both of those games were also losses.

Stafford is a fraud.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I agree. Though while I agree Tebow put this game on his back and took control, could they suck him off any more?

If you're talking about the NFL, Tebow is irrelevant. If you're talking about tonight's game, he deserved all the praise.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

I love TEbow. He got robbed on the Heisman this game proves it.

Robbed. I'm not going that far.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by cdcox

If you're talking about the NFL, Tebow is irrelevant. If you're talking about tonight's game, he deserved all the praise.

I said he deserves credit, but are you watching this.....come on

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Try educating yourself about how overrated Stafford is and how (until late last season) he was considered a disappointment... considering how highly recruited he was coming out of high school.

Stafford completed barely over 55% of his passes last season and was horrible his freshman year (52% completion %, 7 TDs compared to 13 INTs).

In his two biggest games of the season this year... against Alabama and Florida (the two most NFL-caliber defenses he faced this year) Stafford was average at best (completing just over 57% of his passes) against Alabama and was horrible (under 55% completion %, 0 TD and 3 INTs) against Florida.

Both of those games were also losses.

Stafford is a fraud.

You may be right, but I don't see it. I love football......We'll see.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Montana's arm and Jake Plummer's head. I don't see it.

Stafford = Ryan Leaf's composure and Todd Marinovich's resume.

See, I can make baseless comparisons too.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Try educating yourself about how overrated Stafford is and how (until late last season) he was considered a disappointment... considering how highly recruited he was coming out of high school.

Stafford completed barely over 55% of his passes last season and was horrible his freshman year (52% completion %, 7 TDs compared to 13 INTs).

In his two biggest games of the season this year... against Alabama and Florida (the two most NFL-caliber defenses he faced this year) Stafford was average at best (completing just over 57% of his passes) against Alabama and was horrible (under 55% completion %, 0 TD and 3 INTs) against Florida.

Both of those games were also losses.

Stafford is a fraud.

I don't have too much of an issue with your post, other than the use of the word fraud.

Stafford did seem to have his worst games against the best competition.

I had a post a while back about his stats against the top half of the SEC and the bottom half of the SEC. He basically beat up on the weak sisters, and struggled mightily against the good teams.

However, I have to ask WTF you meant by this:

[QUOTE]Have you seen Stafford play? He was a mediocre QB for most of his career (until this year) and runs the most un-NFL like offense of the big 3 (Sanchez, Bradford and Stafford).

Georgia runs a pro offense. As does USC.

Oklahoma doesn't run anything resembling a pro offense. (unless your name is lil stumppy)

[smittysbar]

[quote=OnTheWarpath58;5371878]I don't have too much of an issue with your post, other than the use of the word fraud.

Stafford did seem to have his worst games against the best competition.

I had a post a while back about his stats against the top half of the SEC and the bottom half of the SEC. He basically beat up on the weak sisters, and struggled mightily against the good teams.

However, I have to ask WTF you meant by this:

Have you seen Stafford play? He was a mediocre QB for most of his career (until this year) and runs the most un-NFL like offense of the big 3 (Sanchez, Bradford and Stafford).

Georgia runs a pro offense. As does USC.

Oklahoma doesn't run anything resembling a pro offense. (unless your name is lil stumppy)

Very true

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

I said he deserves credit, but are you watching this.....come on

I heard them call him one of the top 5 to 10 college football players of all time. All time is a long time, especially in college ball, and I haven't watched that much college ball. So I really can't say. He doesn't wow you, but he's money.