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Mr. Krab · 03-23-2009, 08:58 AM

JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY

KU ready to beat Michigan State? I don’t think so

MINNEAPOLIS | It would be a shame if Kansas basketball players and their relatively small contingent of traveling fans left the Metrodome believing the Jayhawks proved this weekend they’re ready for a rematch against Michigan State.

“Sadly mistaken” doesn’t do justice to how little the Hawks demonstrated in advancing to the NCAA Tournament’s Sweet Sixteen with victories over North Dakota State and Dayton.

We already established that Friday’s 10-point victory over the Bison was a product of a ridiculous strategic error by North Dakota State coach Saul Phillips.

Sunday’s 60-43 laugher over the Dayton Flyers simply confirmed what I’ve always believed about the unfairness of the Big Dance. Thanks to a flawed seeding process and a horrendous, first-round performance by Bob Huggins’ West Virginia Mountaineers, the third-seeded Jayhawks were blessed with the privilege of playing the most unskilled team left in the tournament.

Honestly, I played on and coached better-shooting intramural teams in college than the 2008-09 Dayton Flyers.

Dayton, the runner-up in the Atlantic 10, might be on par with Colorado, the last-place team in the Big 12. Yes, in November Dayton beat Auburn and Marquette on back-to-back nights. November is college basketball’s exhibition season. The results shouldn’t count.

I’ve never seen anything as pathetic as Dayton’s offense. On Saturday, I spent much of the afternoon wondering how Chris Wright, a big-time recruit, landed at Dayton. Sunday he provided an answer. He can’t finish at the rim, in the paint or on the perimeter. He’s Kansas State’s Dominique Sutton without the defensive intensity.

Wright is so raw that a vegan would put him in the microwave.
The Flyers shot 22 percent from the field.

Yeah, you can delude yourself into thinking Kansas played amazing defense. Not true. The Flyers hurled themselves into the lane and threw up shots into the outstretched arms of Cole Aldrich, who recorded what is believed to be the third triple-double in Kansas history.

Young McHale scored 13 points, snagged 20 rebounds and rejected 10 shots. I love Young McHale. If he stays in college four years, he’ll likely be one of the 10 best players in Kansas history and have a chance to be a Young Bill Walton, the last great white NBA center.

After offering that bit of context, let me say emphatically that Aldrich’s triple-double on Sunday was the least impressive I’ve had the pleasure to witness. The Flyers missed so many damn shots that $weet Lew Perkins was credited with five boards. Every time Wright sailed into the lane he gently placed the ball in Aldrich’s hands. Some of Aldrich’s blocks should have been scored as steals.

The truth is Kansas played poorly on Sunday. Oh, the Cole and Collins Show performed to rave reviews. Sherron Collins knocked down 11 of 19 shots, scored 25 points, snatched seven rebounds and avoided a turnover. Mario Little turned in an efficient 16 minutes, hitting three of four shots and hauling in six boards.

The rest of the Hawks were worthless.

Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed missed eight of their nine three-point attempts. Tyshawn Taylor was a turnover machine (six). The Morris Twins combined for two points and five rebounds in 31 minutes.

The Jayhawks turned the ball over 17 times, missed half of their 22 free-throw attempts and 13 of 16 three-point shots.

Dayton is the only team that played on Sunday that would have lost to Kansas.

The Cole and Collins Show won’t beat Michigan State on Friday.
The second-seeded Spartans, who spanked Kansas in January, looked like a national-title threat on Sunday in their close victory over a highly skilled Southern California squad. Michigan State looks better when it plays outside the Big Ten — all the Big Ten teams do. The style of play in the conference is so physical that the teams beat each other up and look bad doing it.

Against USC, an unfamiliar opponent, the Spartans appeared athletic, smooth and tough. They looked a lot better than Kansas.
So did the Missouri Tigers, who slipped past Marquette in the West Regional.

Are you getting the picture?

Good teams were tested this weekend and passed those tests. The Jayhawks have yet to be pushed.

There’s no reason for the Jayhawks or their fans to get cocky. There’s no reason to believe the Hawks can beat Michigan State.

Boon · 03-23-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Remember, Stooie thinks Kansas is the center of the universe.

It isn't?

Frazod · 03-23-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon

It isn't?

Stewie · 03-23-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Remember, Stooie thinks Kansas is the center of the universe.

I must admit I have a good life on this side of the border. No complaints. A nice house on a acre in JoCo with great schools and neighbors. And yes we cheer for the Chiefs. I don't see the Chiefs so much as a MO institution as a metro institution. We have all the fun of the games and good times without being duped into the ridiculous pro sport franchise tax.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Remember, Stooie thinks Kansas is the center of the universe.

Just because Hoyt Axton had a Pizza Hut commercial where he claimed that Oklahoma was "the cultural center of the universe", doesn't make THAT shit true either!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

I must admit I have a good life on this side of the border. No complaints. A nice house on a acre in JoCo with great schools and neighbors. And yes we cheer for the Chiefs. I don't see the Chiefs so much as a MO institution as a metro institution. We have all the fun of the games and good times without being duped into the ridiculous pro sport franchise tax.

And no first crack at season tickets, and no revenue going to your State, and plenty of your cash going in to Jackson County Missouri's pocket.

We thank you for your patronage.

**petegz28** · 03-23-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Dog

Anyone who thinks Gates has the best BBQ in the world, is dumbass anyway. I'm surprised his over the top article didn't include any glancing blows about the age of the Hawks.

Kiss my ass..Gates rocks.

hawkchief · 03-23-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And no first crack at season tickets, and no revenue going to your State, and plenty of your cash going in to Jackson County Missouri's pocket.

We thank you for your patronage.

As hard as we try, KCMO still sucks ass. Great streets, great schools and a Mayor anyone should be proud of

Without Johnson Countians, KCMO (and all of those who have relo'd to JOCO cuz KCMO sucks so bad) wouldn't have much, huh?

Reerun_KC · 03-23-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And no first crack at season tickets, and no revenue going to your State, and plenty of your cash going in to Jackson County Missouri's pocket.

We thank you for your patronage.

How does that financially impact your monthly budget? Are you getting kick backs from the county?

IF not, then what does it matter?

Al Czervik · 03-23-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And no first crack at season tickets, and no revenue going to your State, and plenty of your cash going in to Jackson County Missouri's pocket.

We thank you for your patronage.

Location has nothing to do with season tickets....
First come first serve.....

Boon · 03-23-2009, 04:23 PM

Since this thread has drifted from a Whitlock sucks to a Kansas/Missouri sucks thread, I'd like to share a story with you about my last excursion to the "show me" state.

Somewhere east of Fort Scott on 54 I became acutely aware I was approaching the dreaded "Mizzery". Within minutes of the border all three kids shit their pants, the wife wanted to ****, and I felt like stealing something. Almost like a scene from the Twighlight Zone.

Boyceofsummer · 03-23-2009, 04:23 PM

I was most impressed with Dayton’s perimeter defense. They would have never been beat by a hot shooting 3pt. performance. KU on the other hand, has a history of losing to a hot shooting performance by opponents. Dayton was dreadful from outside. Whitlock should have bashed HCBS for not going zone the second half.

Don’t be surprised by KU this year. We all thought this would be dreadful early this season. Aldrich single handedly kept them in the game. However every rally by Dayton was sparked by ridiculous passes by Aldrich. I was pulling what little hair I have left out.

**Bearcat** · 03-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Readable thread or not... let's see who's posting on it...



User Name  	Posts

Metrolike 	10

frazod 	        10

Darth CarlSatan 8

Reetard_KC 	6

CoMoChief 	6

petegz28 	5

blaise 	        4

Let me guess, 10 "Secondary sport"/"This is why Missouri is a better state than Kansas"/"Kneepads"... 8 "DUUUUUUHHHHHHRRRRRR"... some talk about football and basketball and why it's not necessary to be loyal to one school in both, and a shot at Sasha Kaun... and some "

" and "

" at the "DUUUUUUUHHHHHRRRRRR".

Kansas has lived up to their seed, which is more than I expected from such a young team.... then again, Dayton is as bad as Whitlock says, probably worse.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Kiss my ass..Gates rocks.

****in-A.

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

As hard as we try, KCMO still sucks ass. Great streets, great schools and a Mayor anyone should be proud of

Without Johnson Countians, KCMO (and all of those who have relo'd to JOCO cuz KCMO sucks so bad) wouldn't have much, huh?

I never missed 'em. We got along just fine when JOCO was a field and mule, and we'll keep on doing fine long after their pre-fab, cut and paste culture dies out.

tonyetony · 03-23-2009, 04:33 PM

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Somewhere east of Fort Scott on 54 I became acutely aware I was approaching the dreaded "Mizzery". Within minutes of the border all three kids shit their pants, the wife wanted to ****, and I felt like stealing something. Almost like a scene from the Twighlight Zone

Good Gawd that made me laugh hard enough for someone in the house to ask "are you ok?"

Stewie · 03-23-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And no first crack at season tickets, and no revenue going to your State, and plenty of your cash going in to Jackson County Missouri's pocket.

We thank you for your patronage.

I don't choose where I live based on trivial matters like sports teams. I used to go to games, but haven't been for a long time. Eight games per year is not something that concerns me in the big scheme. Do I like it when the Chiefs win? Yep. Am I mad when they make stupid moves? Yep. Do I want my tax dollars going to billionaires? Nope.

I make choices based on what makes sense to me. Sports are way down the list when there are fifty other, more important things. Apparently there are others here that think having pro sports teams is the crown jewel. I differ from that opinion.

03-23-2009, 08:58 AM
Mr. Krab Big Red Nuts Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $10004900	Whitlock: KU sucks JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY KU ready to beat Michigan State? I don’t think so MINNEAPOLIS \| It would be a shame if Kansas basketball players and their relatively small contingent of traveling fans left the Metrodome believing the Jayhawks proved this weekend they’re ready for a rematch against Michigan State. “Sadly mistaken” doesn’t do justice to how little the Hawks demonstrated in advancing to the NCAA Tournament’s Sweet Sixteen with victories over North Dakota State and Dayton. We already established that Friday’s 10-point victory over the Bison was a product of a ridiculous strategic error by North Dakota State coach Saul Phillips. Sunday’s 60-43 laugher over the Dayton Flyers simply confirmed what I’ve always believed about the unfairness of the Big Dance. Thanks to a flawed seeding process and a horrendous, first-round performance by Bob Huggins’ West Virginia Mountaineers, the third-seeded Jayhawks were blessed with the privilege of playing the most unskilled team left in the tournament. Honestly, I played on and coached better-shooting intramural teams in college than the 2008-09 Dayton Flyers. Dayton, the runner-up in the Atlantic 10, might be on par with Colorado, the last-place team in the Big 12. Yes, in November Dayton beat Auburn and Marquette on back-to-back nights. November is college basketball’s exhibition season. The results shouldn’t count. I’ve never seen anything as pathetic as Dayton’s offense. On Saturday, I spent much of the afternoon wondering how Chris Wright, a big-time recruit, landed at Dayton. Sunday he provided an answer. He can’t finish at the rim, in the paint or on the perimeter. He’s Kansas State’s Dominique Sutton without the defensive intensity. Wright is so raw that a vegan would put him in the microwave. The Flyers shot 22 percent from the field. Yeah, you can delude yourself into thinking Kansas played amazing defense. Not true. The Flyers hurled themselves into the lane and threw up shots into the outstretched arms of Cole Aldrich, who recorded what is believed to be the third triple-double in Kansas history. Young McHale scored 13 points, snagged 20 rebounds and rejected 10 shots. I love Young McHale. If he stays in college four years, he’ll likely be one of the 10 best players in Kansas history and have a chance to be a Young Bill Walton, the last great white NBA center. After offering that bit of context, let me say emphatically that Aldrich’s triple-double on Sunday was the least impressive I’ve had the pleasure to witness. The Flyers missed so many damn shots that $weet Lew Perkins was credited with five boards. Every time Wright sailed into the lane he gently placed the ball in Aldrich’s hands. Some of Aldrich’s blocks should have been scored as steals. The truth is Kansas played poorly on Sunday. Oh, the Cole and Collins Show performed to rave reviews. Sherron Collins knocked down 11 of 19 shots, scored 25 points, snatched seven rebounds and avoided a turnover. Mario Little turned in an efficient 16 minutes, hitting three of four shots and hauling in six boards. The rest of the Hawks were worthless. Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed missed eight of their nine three-point attempts. Tyshawn Taylor was a turnover machine (six). The Morris Twins combined for two points and five rebounds in 31 minutes. The Jayhawks turned the ball over 17 times, missed half of their 22 free-throw attempts and 13 of 16 three-point shots. Dayton is the only team that played on Sunday that would have lost to Kansas. The Cole and Collins Show won’t beat Michigan State on Friday. The second-seeded Spartans, who spanked Kansas in January, looked like a national-title threat on Sunday in their close victory over a highly skilled Southern California squad. Michigan State looks better when it plays outside the Big Ten — all the Big Ten teams do. The style of play in the conference is so physical that the teams beat each other up and look bad doing it. Against USC, an unfamiliar opponent, the Spartans appeared athletic, smooth and tough. They looked a lot better than Kansas. So did the Missouri Tigers, who slipped past Marquette in the West Regional. Are you getting the picture? Good teams were tested this weekend and passed those tests. The Jayhawks have yet to be pushed. There’s no reason for the Jayhawks or their fans to get cocky. There’s no reason to believe the Hawks can beat Michigan State.
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03-23-2009, 04:23 PM	#100
Boon a.k.a. Lenny Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Smack dab in the middle Casino cash: $9637069	Since this thread has drifted from a Whitlock sucks to a Kansas/Missouri sucks thread, I'd like to share a story with you about my last excursion to the "show me" state. Somewhere east of Fort Scott on 54 I became acutely aware I was approaching the dreaded "Mizzery". Within minutes of the border all three kids shit their pants, the wife wanted to ****, and I felt like stealing something. Almost like a scene from the Twighlight Zone.
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03-23-2009, 04:23 PM	#101
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	KU & bitching sports writers............................... I was most impressed with Dayton’s perimeter defense. They would have never been beat by a hot shooting 3pt. performance. KU on the other hand, has a history of losing to a hot shooting performance by opponents. Dayton was dreadful from outside. Whitlock should have bashed HCBS for not going zone the second half. Don’t be surprised by KU this year. We all thought this would be dreadful early this season. Aldrich single handedly kept them in the game. However every rally by Dayton was sparked by ridiculous passes by Aldrich. I was pulling what little hair I have left out. __________________ ALL YOU GIMPS & reerunS..........GET THE OUT!
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03-23-2009, 04:28 PM	#102
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-1135069	Readable thread or not... let's see who's posting on it... User Name Posts Metrolike 10 frazod 10 Darth CarlSatan 8 Reetard_KC 6 CoMoChief 6 petegz28 5 blaise 4 Let me guess, 10 "Secondary sport"/"This is why Missouri is a better state than Kansas"/"Kneepads"... 8 "DUUUUUUHHHHHHRRRRRR"... some talk about football and basketball and why it's not necessary to be loyal to one school in both, and a shot at Sasha Kaun... and some "" and "" at the "DUUUUUUUHHHHHRRRRRR". Kansas has lived up to their seed, which is more than I expected from such a young team.... then again, Dayton is as bad as Whitlock says, probably worse.
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