Chiefs Someone IS "pushing" Matt Cassell...and it AIN'T Tyler freaking Thigpen - Page 7

**luv** · 08-18-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Croyle sucks cuz he's also inaccurate and on 3rd down he won't even throw it to the sticks.

He drastically improved that in the short time he has played. The latter was a matter of play-calling, IMO.

Titty Meat · 08-18-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

He drastically improved that in the short time he has played. The latter was a matter of play-calling, IMO.

He did it the other night too. Wrght was able to run after the catch though.

Micjones · 08-18-2009, 10:47 PM

This is silly...
Cassel's your starter...with a bullet.

**luv** · 08-18-2009, 10:48 PM

I'm not saying anyone is pushing Cassel. I'm just saying that Croyle doesn't suck. Thought I'd make myself clear on that.

MoreLemonPledge · 08-18-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I'm not saying anyone is pushing Cassel. I'm just saying that Croyle doesn't suck. Thought I'd make myself clear on that.

He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

**KcMizzou** · 08-18-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

**luv** · 08-18-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

Exactly. If we could focus on getting offensive linemen in there instead of trying to make a point to Bowe, I think we'd be better off.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-19-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

Yep. He was just not meant to play football.

**HemiEd** · 08-19-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

Let me see, he is in his early 20s, gets paid millions to hold a clip board, and is married to Kelly.

It is really pretty hard for me to scrape up too much sympathy for the guy.

splatbass · 08-19-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

With good conditioning and a decent OL he might be ok. Herm had a history of QB injuries, I'd lay some of the blame on him.

Titty Meat · 08-18-2009, 10:54 PM

6 Td's 8 picks and 0 wins as a starter. I guess he'd be an ok backup but these people saying he should be the starter shhhh.

JohnnyV13 · 08-19-2009, 03:28 AM

What I don't understand is why Croyle hasn't gotten bigger knowing his durability weakness.

Heck, I'm a really small guy. I weighed 121lbs when I graduated high school. Two years later, I weighed 171 because I worked very hard in the gym.

Hell, I could gain more muscle mass if I were a professional athlete. And, I'm not doing anything exotic with supplements.

I understand he's in an NFL conditioning program and perhaps he's just a rather thin guy who's already maxed out his body, but if I were him, I'd be juiced to the gills with HgH. Its on the banned substance list, but they don't test for it. Of course, I wouldn't use mega doses because that can be very bad if you have unknown tumors: in that case, HgH stimulates tumor growth.

**penguinz** · 08-19-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

What I don't understand is why Croyle hasn't gotten bigger knowing his durability weakness.

Heck, I'm a really small guy. I weighed 121lbs when I graduated high school. Two years later, I weighed 171 because I worked very hard in the gym.

Hell, I could gain more muscle mass if I were a professional athlete. And, I'm not doing anything exotic with supplements.

I understand he's in an NFL conditioning program and perhaps he's just a rather thin guy who's already maxed out his body, but if I were him, I'd be juiced to the gills with HgH. Its on the banned substance list, but they don't test for it. Of course, I wouldn't use mega doses because that can be very bad if you have unknown tumors: in that case, HgH stimulates tumor growth.

SenselessChiefsFan · 08-19-2009, 06:35 AM

I think Croyle has one of the five best arms in the NFL. He has the kind of arm that is truly impressive in person. He has a better arm that the beloved Sanchez. He has a better arm than Alex Smith. He has a better arm than Leinart. He has an arm comparable to Cutler, or even Elway or Favre in their prime. Not quite as good, but would definitely give those guys a run for their money.

I think Croyle has a ton of leadership. I think Croyle has a ton of mobility.

About the only things that Croyle doesn't have are experience and durability.

Here lies the problem.... he won't get much experience if he can't last more than a half of a football game....

Some of it is just bad luck.... and bad offensive lines.

In reality, he is too tough for his own good. He will stand in the pocket in the face of a strong rush to deliver the ball. He will run for yardage and take the hits.

The guy has come back from so many injuries. He is like a boxer who just keeps getting up.... when so many of us... (Me included),by now would have just hung em' up.

I admire his resolve. I think it is unfortunate that the most talented QB in Chiefs camp right now is also the one that can't be counted on.

Red Dawg · 08-19-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I think Croyle has one of the five best arms in the NFL. He has the kind of arm that is truly impressive in person. He has a better arm that the beloved Sanchez. He has a better arm than Alex Smith. He has a better arm than Leinart. He has an arm comparable to Cutler, or even Elway or Favre in their prime. Not quite as good, but would definitely give those guys a run for their money.

I think Croyle has a ton of leadership. I think Croyle has a ton of mobility.

About the only things that Croyle doesn't have are experience and durability.

Here lies the problem.... he won't get much experience if he can't last more than a half of a football game....

Some of it is just bad luck.... and bad offensive lines.

In reality, he is too tough for his own good. He will stand in the pocket in the face of a strong rush to deliver the ball. He will run for yardage and take the hits.

The guy has come back from so many injuries. He is like a boxer who just keeps getting up.... when so many of us... (Me included),by now would have just hung em' up.

I admire his resolve. I think it is unfortunate that the most talented QB in Chiefs camp right now is also the one that can't be counted on.

This ia great analogy. If he had the physical make up to be a starter he would be great. His arm is a cannon with a quick release and he can survey the field but his body can't take any punishment.

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JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $5385200	What I don't understand is why Croyle hasn't gotten bigger knowing his durability weakness. Heck, I'm a really small guy. I weighed 121lbs when I graduated high school. Two years later, I weighed 171 because I worked very hard in the gym. Hell, I could gain more muscle mass if I were a professional athlete. And, I'm not doing anything exotic with supplements. I understand he's in an NFL conditioning program and perhaps he's just a rather thin guy who's already maxed out his body, but if I were him, I'd be juiced to the gills with HgH. Its on the banned substance list, but they don't test for it. Of course, I wouldn't use mega doses because that can be very bad if you have unknown tumors: in that case, HgH stimulates tumor growth.
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08-19-2009, 06:35 AM	#14
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I think Croyle has one of the five best arms in the NFL. He has the kind of arm that is truly impressive in person. He has a better arm that the beloved Sanchez. He has a better arm than Alex Smith. He has a better arm than Leinart. He has an arm comparable to Cutler, or even Elway or Favre in their prime. Not quite as good, but would definitely give those guys a run for their money. I think Croyle has a ton of leadership. I think Croyle has a ton of mobility. About the only things that Croyle doesn't have are experience and durability. Here lies the problem.... he won't get much experience if he can't last more than a half of a football game.... Some of it is just bad luck.... and bad offensive lines. In reality, he is too tough for his own good. He will stand in the pocket in the face of a strong rush to deliver the ball. He will run for yardage and take the hits. The guy has come back from so many injuries. He is like a boxer who just keeps getting up.... when so many of us... (Me included),by now would have just hung em' up. I admire his resolve. I think it is unfortunate that the most talented QB in Chiefs camp right now is also the one that can't be counted on. Last edited by SenselessChiefsFan; 08-19-2009 at 06:43 AM..
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