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Old 11-16-2009, 11:32 PM  
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Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac

Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:31 AM   #91
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he is more gannon, throws side arm sometimes, moble, throws dink and dunk passes
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:37 AM   #92
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:40 AM   #93
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This is a completely idiotic statement. Cassel may not have "elite" talent, but he is a very good leader from what I have seen, and what his teammates have stated.

Elite talent is few and far between. You need a leader, and Cassel is definitely that. I loved the way he took Savage under his wing after his mistakes and stayed with receivers after drops. A lesser "leader" may have packed it in after the horrid OL play this season.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:41 AM   #94
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:46 AM   #95
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Maas is usually pretty good, but he's forcing it here. All signs I've seen point to Cassel being much more level-headed and generally self-confident than Grbac. Grbac was a weekly distraction. Coaches and other players were always having to talk him up. "I can't throw the ball and catch it, too" is something you would never, ever hear Cassel say.
Yeah, I'd agree on that.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:04 AM   #96
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Maas usually has good football takes. He's wrong this time.
Cassel may or may not be the answer, but he is NOT Elvis Grbac.

Grbac was NEVER the kind of QB to go and wrap his arm around a young player after they made a mistake on the field.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:07 AM   #97
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:16 AM   #98
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didn't Maas get busted w/ Crack or something?

Last edited by Simply Red; 11-17-2009 at 11:19 AM.. Reason: six grams of suspected cocaine and 28 pills of Ecstasy, according to police. Both Maas and Murphy were charged with posses...
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:16 AM   #99
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:18 AM   #100
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Cassel reminds me more of Bill Kenney.

At least he hasn't sat out due to marginal injury like a "neck burner...."
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:29 AM   #101
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I REALLY wish the archives could go back in time to show this is exactly what I surmised happened as far as what transpired between Elvis and People magazine.


http://jeffpearlman.com/index.php?s=elvis+grbac

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One of my favorite all-time stories is about Elvis Grbac (left), Rich Gannon (right) and People Magazine’s Sexiest Men issue from 1998. It is both outlandish and 100-percent true.

Back in the day I knew many People staffers, and they were all cool, fun, intelligent—and woefully ignorant about sports. Every year, in planning the Sexiest Men issue, People’s editors would ask a bunch of us at Sports Illustrated for suggestions and insight. In 1998, for a reason I’ll never understand, they decided not to seek out help.

The magazine chose Rich Gannon as its Sexiest Athlete. At the time, Gannon was a member of the Kansas City Chiefs. Still a couple of seasons removed from his golden tenure with the Raiders, Gannon was 33, handsome and likable. In other words, a solid choice. Yet People, being People, simply informed the photographer assigned to the piece that the Sexiest Athlete was the Chiefs’ quarterback. Hence, he took pictures of the Chiefs’ quarterback. Well, one of the Chiefs’ quarterbacks: Elvis Grbac.

Yup.

The pictures made their way back to the New York offices, and editors were dumbfounded. This was their Sexiest Athlete? Yet upon learning the truth, no one with the magazine had the heart (guts?) to tell Grbac that an unfathomable mistake had been made. As a result, Elvis Grbac reigns as People’s 1998 Sexiest Athlete.

The article’s final line says it all: “His personality makes him sexy.”

Amen.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:43 AM   #103
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This is a completely idiotic statement. Cassel may not have "elite" talent, but he is a very good leader from what I have seen, and what his teammates have stated.

Elite talent is few and far between. You need a leader, and Cassel is definitely that. I loved the way he took Savage under his wing after his mistakes and stayed with receivers after drops. A lesser "leader" may have packed it in after the horrid OL play this season.
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This. I don't necessarily think Cassel has elite talent, and yes, he has made some mistakes. But I think a lot of the problems we're seeing with him are a mixture of a new team and a horrible OL with only 1 real weapon to throw to.

Give him a league-average (or preferrably better) OL and more than 1 guy to throw to, then if he's still not doing much better, we'll talk about Cassel being a disappointment.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:54 AM   #104
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Maas is stupid, cassel is nothing like Grbac

Grbac was a strong arm QB who wasn't mobile and was a prima donna douche

cassel is a average arm QB who is mobile and not a prima donna at all.


Cassel may or may not turn out to be a stud QB but the comparison to Grbac is totally stupid.

Cassel is more like Jeff Garcia if anything
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:15 PM   #105
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Cassel reminds me more of David Carr.
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