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ESPN insider McShay's Mock

More Okung. Berry to 7




Originally Published: February 10, 2010
O-line and D-line take over top 10
Updated top 10 includes only one skill player and one defensive back
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Much has been made of the strength of the 2010 defensive tackle class, and the fact that the first two picks in Scouts Inc.'s latest first-round projection are defensive tackles is no surprise.

However, the offensive tackles are coming on strong, and we now project four offensive tackles to come off the board in the first eight picks. Add a pair of defensive ends to the players mentioned above, and you have eight linemen among the first 10 picks.

That leaves little room at the top for skill players and defensive backs, and some of the biggest names on our board have slipped significantly in our latest projection.

Here's how we see things shaking out now that the college all-star games are over and prospects are preparing for the upcoming NFL combine.


St. Louis Rams

Record: 1-15
Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma

The Rams have a poor track record when it comes to drafting defensive linemen early, and now they have a tough choice to make between the stronger, more instinctive Ndamukong Suh and the quicker, more disruptive McCoy. Coach Steve Spagnuolo is looking for defensive linemen who can penetrate, which is why we think McCoy could be the top overall pick.
Detroit Lions

Record: 2-14
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

The Lions will gladly take Suh here. He won't provide the pass-rush production of McCoy, but he is a force versus the run and he consistently disrupts passing windows thanks to his excellent instincts and long arms.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 3-13
Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

The Bucs will consider Tennessee S Eric Berry here, but they are in dire need of a speed rusher and Pierre-Paul is the most explosive one this draft class has to offer.
Washington Redskins

Record: 4-12
Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers

Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford has enough physical and mental tools to develop into a good NFL starter eventually. However, he also enters the league with enough question marks (shoulder injury, spread offensive system, etc.) for a team like the Redskins to pass and fill one of several other holes. Solidifying its offensive line should be Washington's top priority, and Davis is the most naturally gifted tackle in this year's deep group. Two other options at tackle are Russell Okung (Oklahoma State) and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa).
Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 4-12
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

Berry could make a huge impact in the Chiefs' secondary as well, but Kansas City has too much work still to do at core positions to spend No. 5 money on a safety. The offensive line needs to be solidified, and that could happen by bringing in Okung, who has a quick first step, good power and a mean streak.
Seattle Seahawks

Record: 5-11
Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

Look for Seattle to pass on a quarterback in the top 10 for the second straight year. Finding a replacement for Walter Jones at left tackle is the more immediate need, and the team will get a safer prospect there than at quarterback. Bulaga still has room to improve in pass protection, but he displays the feet and balance to develop into a very good overall starting left tackle in the NFL.
Cleveland Browns

Record: 5-11
Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant will be tough to pass up here, but the Browns did spend a pair of second-round picks on WRs Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi last year. Berry has the talent and experience to make the kind of impact for the Browns that perennial Pro Bowler Ed Reed made for the Ravens early in his career.
Oakland Raiders

Record: 5-11
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Considering the team has used high draft picks on a quarterback (JaMarcus Russell), running back (Darren McFadden) and wide receiver (Darrius Heyward-Bey) in recent years, it would make sense to shift the focus to the offensive line this April. Both of the Raiders' starting offensive tackles (Mario Henderson and Cornell Green) are below average, and Williams has the physical tools and toughness to provide an upgrade at one of those two spots immediately.
Buffalo Bills

Record: 6-11
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

Offensive tackle and quarterback are chief among the Bills' needs, and they should draft a tackle if Davis, Okung or Bulaga is available. This scenario has them selecting the top quarterback prospect in the 2010 class, though. Bradford is a bit of a project because of his slight frame and the spread system he played in at Oklahoma, but he has the football intelligence and accuracy to be molded into a good starter in the NFL.
Jacksonville Jaguars**

Record: 7-9
Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

Morgan will not wow scouts with his results at the combine, but he is a high-motor, technically sound player who can pressure the quarterback and set the edge against the run. He has the physical tools to develop into a good every-down starter at the next level.
Denver Broncos** (from 7-9 Chicago)

Record: 6-7
Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Denver still has needs along its offensive and defensive fronts as well as in the secondary, but it will be tough to pass on the clear-cut No. 1 wideout in this year's class should Bryant fall to the Broncos.
Miami Dolphins

Record: 7-9
Rolando McClain*, ILB, Alabama

Bryant falling to No. 12 would be a dream scenario for the Dolphins, but if he is off the board, look for Miami to target a top talent in the defensive front seven. McClain is NFL-ready with the size, straight-line speed and work ethic to win a starting inside linebacker job immediately.
San Francisco 49ers

Record: 8-8
Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

The 49ers could go in several directions with this pick, including quarterback, offensive line or a pass-rusher, but they wouldn't go wrong taking a top-10 skill player like Haden at this spot.
Seattle Seahawks (from 8-8 Denver)

Record: 5-11
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen might be a possibility here, but we do not believe he's worthy of a first-round selection. After finding a left tackle at No. 6, it would make sense for the Seahawks to use this pick on a difference-maker like Spiller. Running backs generally are not worth drafting this high, but Spiller has additional value due to his home run ability as a receiver and return man.
New York Giants

Record: 8-8
Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

The Giants need to retool the middle of their defense, and Price would be a good player to start with. He possesses the quickness and power to develop into a disruptive playmaker who can get into opposing backfields.
San Francisco** (from 8-8 Carolina)

Record: 8-8
Mike Iupati, OT/G, Idaho

Iupati is a fast-rising guard/right tackle prospect who is strong and nasty and would fit in nicely with coach Mike Singletary's hard-nosed brand of football.
Tennessee Titans**

Record: 8-8
Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

Dunlap is a bit immature and there are questions about his work ethic, but he also possesses a rare combination of size and athleticism for a defensive end. The Titans have enough veteran leadership on that side of the ball to pull the trigger here on a developmental project like Dunlap.
Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 9-7
Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

The Steelers would like to use this pick on a top offensive line prospect like Iupati or Trent Williams, but with both off the board, they will avoid reaching for another offensive lineman. They also will avoid stretching for a tackle like Maryland's Bruce Campbell to go for value with Dan Williams, who has the size and strength to develop into the eventual replacement for NT Casey Hampton, who is set to become a free agent.
Atlanta Falcons**

Record: 9-7
Kareem Jackson*, CB, Alabama

The Falcons need to improve their secondary talent after getting shredded through the air this past season. Jackson is one of the most underrated prospects in the 2010 class, and has the size, agility and balance to hold up in bump-and-run coverage on the perimeter. Plus, Jackson's instincts and technique are outstanding, so he should be ready to play as a rookie despite leaving school a year early.
Houston Texans**

Record: 9-7
Earl Thomas*, S, Texas

Thomas is undersized but physical enough to play safety in the NFL if used properly. Regardless, he's one of the three most talented defensive backs in the 2010 class, and the Texans could use an upgrade at both free safety and cornerback, so Thomas is a fit no matter where he ends up playing.
Cincinnati Bengals

Record:10-6
Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

The Bengals are likely to use an early-round selection on a tight end, and while Gresham is a risk due to knee injuries (torn left ACL in high school, season-ending cartilage damage to right knee in 2009), his combination of size and athleticism is rare and he can stretch the seam effectively.
New England Patriots

Record: 10-6
Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

Graham is a bit undersized to play a traditional defensive end role, and he does not have the ideal athleticism you want in an outside linebacker. If used properly, though, Graham can excel in the NFL, and he appears to be in Bill Belichick's wheelhouse with his nonstop motor, excellent technique and good overall football intelligence.
Green Bay Packers

Record: 11-5
Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Campbell will turn some heads with his performance at the combine. However, while he might have the best combination of physical tools in this year's offensive tackle class, we expect Campbell to slip to the bottom half of the first round due to injury concerns and below-average technique.
Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 11-5
Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Eagles need a replacement for the physical presence former defensive leader Brian Dawkins took with him when he left for Denver. Mays is a bit of a liability in deep coverage and he needs to learn to wrap up more consistently as a tackler, but it is hard to imagine a player with his combination of size, straight-line speed and explosive hitting falling out of the first round.
Baltimore Ravens

Record: 9-7
Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

Wilson is a fast-rising prospect after showcasing his upper-echelon bump-and-run coverage skills at the Senior Bowl. A cornerback-needy team like the Ravens could easily pull the trigger on Wilson late in the first round.
Arizona Cardinals

Record: 10-6
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas

Kindle is a bit overrated, but we do think he is worth a pick at this point in the first round. The Cardinals could put him to work as a situational edge rusher early in his career while he works on getting bigger and stronger in order to hold up better versus the run.
Dallas Cowboys

Record: 11-5
Nate Allen, S, South Florida

Allen is far from a first-round lock, but the Cowboys need to improve their athleticism at safety, and Allen has the right combination of speed and fluidity in coverage to help fix the problem.
San Diego Chargers

Record: 13-3
Jahvid Best*, RB, California

Best's draft stock could take a big hit depending on how the medical reports (back/neck, concussion) from the combine look. Assuming he checks out, Best likely will be high on the Chargers' board, along with Dan Williams, fellow RBs Ryan Mathews (Fresno State) and Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech), and DT/DE Jared Odrick (Penn State). A healthy Best gets the nod thanks to his game-breaking speed.
New York Jets

Record: 9-7
Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois

The Jets need perimeter weapons for QB Mark Sanchez to throw to, and Benn is a better prospect than his 2009 production might indicate. He played through a nagging ankle injury and his quarterback was inconsistent, but Benn shows good initial burst and the ability to generate yards after the catch. Still, he needs to be more consistent catching the ball away from his body and must become a more savvy route runner.
Minnesota Vikings

Record: 12-4
Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

The Vikings have proved they will take the best player available on the board, and in this scenario, Odrick fits the bill and would be groomed as an eventual replacement for aging DT Pat Williams. Other possibilities include Clausen, ILB Brandon Spikes (Florida), TE Anthony McCoy (USC) and C/G Maurkice Pouncey (Florida).
Indianapolis Colts

Record: 14-2
Maurkice Pouncey*, OL, Florida

Odrick would make sense if he was still on the board, or the Colts could reach for an athletic offensive tackle like USC's Charles Brown. But Pouncey is a gifted interior lineman with the quick feet, versatility and football intelligence to help the Colts solidify their interior offensive line.
New Orleans Saints

Record: 13-3
Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

Weatherspoon is expected to turn some heads at the combine with his speed, and we're hearing that some teams grade him out as a mid-first-round pick. We're not quite as high on Weatherspoon because we question his ability to play in space, but the Super Bowl champs are expected to focus on upgrading the speed and athleticism of their defense, and Weatherspoon fits the mold.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:11 PM   #91
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He was worse than Sanchez...Sanchez performed like a rookie QB which he was, Cassel performed like a rookie QB while supposedly having experience.
Apparently I need to repeat myself.
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Looking at their individual performance should be and is a mutually-exclusive thing. Judge them for how they did on their own merits, not how they did compared to each other. At least that's how I try to look at it.

Maybe I find it easier since I don't fall into any particular camp. Although, technically, if we have to talk about them together, then, well, I guess I'd have to say I wanted Sanchez more than I wanted Cassel (who I wanted not at all...). The only good thing I've ever been able to say about that trade is that it cost less than I expected. Which still doesn't change the fact that I didn't see Sanchez as a top-5 value, because of his experience, or lack thereof. But in the end my view of one has never had anything to do with my view of the other.
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But if you want to tell yourself that you'd rather have Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson and that's better for the teams future by all means whatever it takes to make you feel better.
So wait, saying Sanchez had a horrible rookie season is saying I'd rather have Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson?

Well, gee, thanks for clearing that up for me, Great Karnak!
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Ok so you are essentially admitting that trading for Matt Cassel was incredibly stupid?
I can't talk for him, but I'll say trading for Cassel was stupid.

And I'll also say that Sanchez had a horrible rookie season.

Because neither fact has anything to do with the other.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not someone who believes every comment about one has to be somehow inextricably linked to the other. At the end of the day I still don't want Cassel and I still wouldn't have given up a top-5 pick for Sanchez. Stafford? Sure.

I still wish we'd found a way to get Ryan. I think he'll be better than all of them.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:12 PM   #92
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I don't even think his rookie season was that bad, but this is KC, where people hate QB's and all that jazz.

This time of year is especially when it comes out.
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That was the decision, you do realize if you dropped Sanchez into this QB class he'd be the top ranked one right?
That's impossible to predict because we don't know what would have happened at USC this year. Maybe he gets hurt or struggles. He was behind Bradford last year before Bradford decided to come back so I would say he would probably be #2 maybe #3 if he came out and nothing too crazy happened this year. Either way he is a top 3 guy, but apparently the Chiefs did not feel like he was what they wanted in a franchise QB if they were looking to draft one. It's too early to tell, but he struggled more then Ryan and Flacco did last year, although Sanchez was also a year younger.
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That was the decision, you do realize if you dropped Sanchez into this QB class he'd be the top ranked one right?
It's true, but that's not saying much. I hate this class at the top of the QB list.

With that said, we will see 1 or 2 superstars come from this class, but they will be the sleeper prospects, not the 1st round guys.
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I don't even think his rookie season was that bad, but this is KC, where people hate QB's and all that jazz.

This time of year is especially when it comes out.
I keep hearing that, but hate QB jazz, but I for one would love to have Bradford or a young QB. I just think most people are resigned to the fact we probably won't take one, although it would be a brillant move IMO.
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That's impossible to predict because we don't know what would have happened at USC this year. Maybe he gets hurt or struggles. He was behind Bradford last year before Bradford decided to come back so I would say he would probably be #2 maybe #3 if he came out and nothing too crazy happened this year. Either way he is a top 3 guy, but apparently the Chiefs did not feel like he was what they wanted in a franchise QB if they were looking to draft one. It's too early to tell, but he struggled more then Ryan and Flacco did last year, although Sanchez was also a year younger.
Disagree with that, on draft forums, NFLDC I will use as the example it was asked if they all declare where do they rank and Scott Wright said Sanchez was ahead of Bradford.

All things considered, Sanchez in prospect terms was ahead of Bradford and Clausen.
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I keep hearing that, but hate QB jazz, but I for one would love to have Bradford or a young QB. I just think most people are resigned to the fact we probably won't take one, although it would be a brillant move IMO.
I don't think Bradford is going to be any better than an ok QB, I don't see any major upside.

But you know what I'm referring to we're a team that hasn't drafted a QB in the first round in nearly 30 years and the idea of it still makes half the fan base shit their pants.
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Disagree with that, on draft forums, NFLDC I will use as the example it was asked if they all declare where do they rank and Scott Wright said Sanchez was ahead of Bradford.

All things considered, Sanchez in prospect terms was ahead of Bradford and Clausen.
All the ones I saw last year had Bradford #1 overall, before going back.
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I don't even think his rookie season was that bad, but this is KC, where people hate QB's and all that jazz.
The guy's protected not only by the league's best defense but the league's best rushing attack, yet he completes less than 54% of his passes and tosses 20 picks on barely over 350 pass attempts. I'm sorry, but that's bad any way you slice it.

Matt Ryan's or Joe Flacco's performance from 2008 is what you want. Not Sanchez or Stafford in 2009. They were both bad. There's no real way to defend either of them.
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I don't think Bradford is going to be any better than an ok QB, I don't see any major upside.

But you know what I'm referring to we're a team that hasn't drafted a QB in the first round in nearly 30 years and the idea of it still makes half the fan base shit their pants.
He is amazingly accurate, which means a lot. I watched Cassell miss so many open guys this year that I know Bradford would of hit right on the money although it probably would have been dropped anyways.
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The guy's protected not only by the league's best defense but the league's best rushing attack, yet he completes less than 54% of his passes and tosses 20 picks on barely over 350 pass attempts. I'm sorry, but that's bad any way you slice it.

Matt Ryan's or Joe Flacco's performance from 2008 is what you want. Not Sanchez or Stafford in 2009. They were both bad. There's no real way to defend either of them.
Stafford got dumped into a shit pyle of a team. That can be defended. I'm not sold on him, but I'm not sure Manning wins 5 with that group.
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And Joe Flacco pissed his pants in the playoffs, Mark Sanchez didn't. I'll be the first one to say I wouldn't have started Sanchez right away, he was a 1 year college starter, I didn't consider him a ready to go from day 1 prospect, so he's going to have growing pains, Matt Ryan for example started about almost 30 more games in college.

Those sites that had Bradford going first were just looking at his stats and hadn't done the offseason looks, Stafford was always the top QB, followed by Sanchez with Bradford coming in just after that, now if they all had come out they probably all go top 10 though.

Bradford has to many questions for me, it's hard to judge accuracy of a guy who plays in the spread system and gets to throw to guys who are running wide open.
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I don't think Bradford is going to be any better than an ok QB, I don't see any major upside.

But you know what I'm referring to we're a team that hasn't drafted a QB in the first round in nearly 30 years and the idea of it still makes half the fan base shit their pants.
This is where you do yourself a disservice. Not wanting your chosen guy doesn't mean people don't want anybody. And it doesn't mean they're stupid. Or that they're homers. It just means that they have a difference of opinion.

Like I've probably dozens of times in the last year, I wouldn't have taken Sanchez high, because he was a junior (risky enough on its own) with one year as a starter. That's too many red flags for the top 5. If we were picking at the bottom of the round I'd have been more open to it. Either way, that doesn't mean I don't want a QB. I would have taken Stafford had he been there. I would have taken Ryan had he been there the year before. I might take Clausen this year, although to be honest there's something about him that just seems off to me. But I imagine Weis knows him better than anybody, so if they somehow did decide to pull the trigger on him, I'd imagine I'd be okay with it.

And I never in a million years would have traded for Cassel. That whole thing had 'disaster' written all over it from the start. I hope it works out in the end, I really do, but I never would have done it.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:30 PM   #104
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And Joe Flacco pissed his pants in the playoffs, Mark Sanchez didn't. I'll be the first one to say I wouldn't have started Sanchez right away, he was a 1 year college starter, I didn't consider him a ready to go from day 1 prospect, so he's going to have growing pains, Matt Ryan for example started about almost 30 more games in college.

Those sites that had Bradford going first were just looking at his stats and hadn't done the offseason looks, Stafford was always the top QB, followed by Sanchez with Bradford coming in just after that, now if they all had come out they probably all go top 10 though.

Bradford has to many questions for me, it's hard to judge accuracy of a guy who plays in the spread system and gets to throw to guys who are running wide open.
That the biggest misconception is that their guys are always wide open. Go back and watch the Florida game again and the game he played this year before getting hurt. He was sqeezing the ball in tight spots, the WR's just couldn't hang on. I don't worry much about the spread, since the NFL uses it so much anyways.

The guy is accurate and I believe that's something you can't teach. Everything else he can learn.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #105
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It's not just Sanchez, how many people argued against Ryan, against the guys this year, against whoever the QB we thought we'd have a chance to pick was?

At the time of the draft the QB is never good enough no matter who it is, Stafford was railed endlessly until it was realized he was going before us and then it turned to Sanchez.

It's about that position not Sanchez.
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