Chiefs Wins and losses ... you make the call - Page 7

Mr. Laz · 08-30-2010, 02:45 PM

predict the wins,losses and record

Wk	Date	Game	Stadium	Time (ET)
1	Sep 13	SD @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	10:15 PM
2	Sep 19	KC @ CLE	Cleveland Browns Stadium	1:00 PM
3	Sep 26	SF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
4	Bye
5	Oct 10	KC @ IND	Lucas Oil Stadium	1:00 PM
6	Oct 17	KC @ HOU	Reliant Stadium	1:00 PM
7	Oct 24	JAC @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
8	Oct 31	BUF @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
9	Nov 07	KC @ OAK	Oakland Coliseum	4:15 PM
10	Nov 14	KC @ DEN	Invesco Field at Mile High	4:05 PM
11	Nov 21	ARI @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
12	Nov 28	KC @ SEA	Qwest Field	4:05 PM
13	Dec 05	DEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
14	Dec 12	KC @ SD	Qualcomm Stadium	4:15 PM
15	Dec 19	KC @ STL	Edward Jones Dome	1:00 PM
16	Dec 26	TEN @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM
17	Jan 02	OAK @ KC	Arrowhead Stadium	1:00 PM

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Tell that to Vince Wilfork, who got paid from a team that would rather draft a player from the rolodex of picks they have at their disposal instead of making it rain.

Or Casey Hampton, or Abreyo Franklin, or Ryan Pickett....

Most of the elite NT's get paid pretty ****ing well. Not sure where he's coming up with this bullshit.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I have watched the Chiefs enough and YOU have watched the Chiefs enough to know that it's wrong to believe that this team was 2 players away from being an over .500 team.

Dude you could have drafted Cody or Washington and fixed a whole and signed Banks who wasn't drafted. Thats 2 holes fixed and this team would be that much closer.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Ok here are my actual (serious!) predictions

Wk Date Game Stadium Time (ET)
1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 10:15 PM L
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Cleveland Browns Stadium 1:00 PM L
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM L
4 Bye
5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Lucas Oil Stadium 1:00 PM L
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Reliant Stadium 1:00 PM L
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM W
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM L
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:15 PM W
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:05 PM L
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM W
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Qwest Field 4:05 PM L
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM W
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Qualcomm Stadium 4:15 PM W
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Edward Jones Dome 1:00 PM W
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM L
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM L

Team will start playing well down the stretch, but it'll be too late (obviously). 6-10 is an improvement, but you can bet your ass Todd and Scott will be in the hot seat.

Tell that to Vince Wilfork, who got paid from a team that would rather draft a player from the rolodex of picks they have at their disposal instead of making it rain.

I'm basing this off of front offices making the market for their Nose Tackles.

Had Wilfork hit the open market, I believe he would have gone elsewhere and the Pats would have had no qualms about it. Because I also saw Ryan Pickett get signed for a measley $25M and the 49ers not caring enough for Aubrayo Franklin to give him more than a franchise 1-year tender, even though he'll likely walk after this season.

Nose Tackles aren't impossible to find. The Chiefs just have to use more than undrafted picks to bring them in.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I have watched the Chiefs enough and YOU have watched the Chiefs enough to know that it's wrong to believe that this team was 2 players away from being an over .500 team.

That's not true at all.

Hell, they potentially win 4 more games last year if they can stop the run.

At worst they go 6-10, and beat Buffalo and Cleveland.

And they have a chance against Baltimore, Dallas, Jacksonville and Cincinnati.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Dude you could have drafted Cody or Washington and fixed a whole and signed Banks who wasn't drafted. Thats 2 holes fixed and this team would be that much closer.

When the **** did a KR become a major need for a NFL team?

(only when he's one of your only sources of offense, maybe?)

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Dude you could have drafted Cody or Washington and fixed a whole and signed Banks who wasn't drafted. Thats 2 holes fixed and this team would be that much closer.

Okay, and then our offense goes back to the one-dimensional play of "let's hope that Charles can carry the ball 15 times a game and score points that way." Or let's throw Maurice Leggett out on slot receivers again and watch no-namers put up 100 yards on us.

And you're acting like a) we would have been competitive in 2010; b) we can't fix these holes in future years.

You are pushing for a strategy of drafting for need. Not drafting the guy you think is BPA. Okay point on Arenas. Stupid point on McCluster, who seems to have proven that he's worth the pick. He's flashed a hell of a lot more than Washington has.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When the **** did a KR become a major need for a NFL team?

(only when he's one of your only sources of offense, maybe?)

It's a major need when your starting quarterback needs 16 completions to move a team 80 yards for a score.

keg in kc · 08-30-2010, 05:21 PM

The kick returner talk would be more apropos if Arenas wasn't the nickel corner and McCluster wasn't lining up all over the offense. Some holes were filled this year, some will be filled next year. It was always going to be that way.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's not true at all.

Hell, they potentially win 4 more games last year if they can stop the run.

At worst they go 6-10, and beat Buffalo and Cleveland.

And they have a chance against Baltimore, Dallas, Jacksonville and Cincinnati.

And none of our losses had anything to do with our horrendous offensive efficiency in the first halves that routinely failed to get first downs in the first half? Or what about the million plays where our nickel corner was getting picked apart by slot receivers--you don't think shutting down some of those 3rd and longs might have helped? Or how about all those punts where Bobby Wade stupidly let the ball bounce into the 5 yard line on a returnable punt?

Our 2a and 2b pick aren't the two picks that are going to suddenly turn this team into a winning franchise. This team had a ton of holes and our goal was to start to fill them, not to expect that you're going to fill them all in an uncapped year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And none of our losses had anything to do with our horrendous offensive efficiency in the first halves that routinely failed to get first downs in the first half?

Our 2a and 2b pick aren't the two picks that are going to suddenly turn this team into a winning franchise.

FOUR TEAMS ran for over 200.

ELEVEN TEAMS ran for over 110.

21 points per game wins 7-8 games last year with even an average run defense.

21 points per game is enough to win in this league, but not with a shitty defense.

The only major problem this offense had/has is at QB. But we all know that wasn't, and probably won't be addressed anytime soon.

Might as well spend picks ignoring our biggest holes and use them on players that will hopefully make Cassel look like a competent QB.

So far, fail.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:36 PM

Hell, next year, I propose that we ignore the triangle, and grab another guy who's good for 8 touches a game.

Every year, we might increase our offensive production by 3 points per game, and by 2012, we might actually score more points on average than the defense allows.

Memories of Grandpa Dick's Circus Offense and 32 Defense, FTMFW.

**DeezNutz** · 08-30-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It was always going to be that way.

I know I'm better than you. I don't give a **** if you know it or not. I dont...I don't give a shit if you give me your best post; I'll give you my best post, and I'll pwn the **** out of you.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

FOUR TEAMS ran for over 200.

ELEVEN TEAMS ran for over 110.

21 points per game wins 7-8 games last year with even an average run defense.

21 points per game is enough to win in this league, but not with a shitty defense.

The only major problem this offense had/has is at QB. But we all know that wasn't, and probably won't be addressed anytime soon.

Might as well spend picks ignoring our biggest holes and use them on players that will hopefully make Cassel look like a competent QB.

So far, fail.

You're really going to sit here and tell me the ONLY major problem the Chiefs had on offense going into the season was the QB? How many times did you and everyone else say that this team needs PLAYMAKERS? Having one playmaker on offense isn't going to help you win games, especially when he can only carry the ball 15 times per game.

Washington/Cody don't even make this defense dominant. They make them a top 15 defense, maybe. A top 15 defense and a bottom 10 offense.... yeah, that's the formula for 8-8.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I know I'm better than you. I don't give a **** if you know it or not. I dont...I don't give a shit if you give me your best post; I'll give you my best post, and I'll pwn the **** out of you.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hell, next year, I propose that we ignore the triangle, and grab another guy who's good for 8 touches a game.

Every year, we might increase our offensive production by 3 points per game, and by 2012, we might actually score more points on average than the defense allows.

Memories of Grandpa Dick's Circus Offense and 32 Defense, FTMFW.

Is this a serious post?

How many touches do you think Julio Jones is going to get a game?

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