Chiefs So... what are the Chiefs' QB options in 2011? - Page 7

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 04:38 PM

I think it's safe to say that the Chiefs are good enough that they will probably not have a top 15 pick. I think with their easy schedule and a pretty decent squad, 8-8 is more than reasonable. That being said, Luck and Mallett are likely not in the cards.

So now what?

Would you trade the moon to get one of those two guys?

Who are some free agents worth looking at? The only one that comes to mind that might be interesting to look at is Shaun Hill--not a guy I'd revolve my franchise around, but a solid veteran that I'd be comfortable starting until we feel comfortable going with a rookie.

**pr_capone** · 10-10-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I hope the 49'ers get sick of Alex Smith so we can pick him up for the following reasons:

1. I think he would be an upgrade over Cassell (who wouldn't?)

2. He should be cheap to sign (it seems everyone has gave up on him, so he shouldn't generate too much interest as a FA or cost to much in a trade)

3. He has a few years of starting experience (a rookie would likely take 3+ years to develop, and a free agent is more likely to make an immediate impact - consider Brees, Vick, Farve, McNabb, & Shaub)

4. He is still young enough to still be in the league in 10 years

A change of scenery might do Smith some good, and I think he would succeed under coaches like Haley and Weis.

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I will punch you.

LMFAO

Hammock Parties · 10-10-2010, 08:16 PM

Hey hey, an ex 49er castoff. We can relive the 90s with our defense and running game.

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I honestly don't believe that Pioli will pull the trigger on a QB in the first round, much less trade up in the first round to get the most coveted prize.

If Luck declares he's probably gone when we pick. I predict we draft Mallett, Ponder, or Foles in the first (depending on where we pick),

OR

Ricky Stanzi of Iowa in the 3rd.

The Ferentz/pioli connection makes this scenario plausible. Stanzi may have to be brought up fairly slowly, qualities in him that I like. Yes he makes bonehead plays some times which can be coached out of him, but he seems to have a short memory regarding them and recovers to bring his team back.
That's a good sign of a leader.

ArrowheadMagic · 10-10-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Hey hey, an ex 49er castoff. We can relive the 90s with our defense and running game.

how else do .you make the playoffs when your QB blows bags of dicks. Are teams less of champions becsuse of how they won

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No one likes the Baldwin/Ponder prediction?

I do. I don't know enough about Baldwin, admittedly, but he seems to be more of a big physicak WR. I'm wishing for a WR with separation spped.

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tarheel23

Play Brodie and see what he can do with a descent cast of players around him,

I was on that ship two years ago. But I think it has sailed.

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

Poor decision maker with a less than suspect arm. Poor footwork, crumbles under pressure. Weak 5 to 7 step drop, plays better out of the gun. locks onto the 1st target, doesnt do anything to move the safties off his 1st read.

In the game and a half that I have seen Ponder this year, he was the TOTAL OPPOSITE of ALL that.

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What I was thinking too. Either him or Tarvaris Jackson. I'd even consider a trade for Kevin Kolb for maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder (hell, I'd start calling the Eagles today). I'd also imagine we'll make a run at Brady Quinn (is he a free agent?--not the guy I'd want, just saying it's something they'd explore).

This post would be really smart,... IF WE WERE OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!

Frankie · 10-10-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I hope the 49'ers get sick of Alex Smith so we can pick him up for the following reasons:

1. I think he would be an upgrade over Cassell (who wouldn't?)

2. He should be cheap to sign (it seems everyone has gave up on him, so he shouldn't generate too much interest as a FA or cost to much in a trade)

3. He has a few years of starting experience (a rookie would likely take 3+ years to develop, and a free agent is more likely to make an immediate impact - consider Brees, Vick, Farve, McNabb, & Shaub)

4. He is still young enough to still be in the league in 10 years

A change of scenery might do Smith some good, and I think he would succeed under coaches like Haley and Weis.

KCBOSS1 · 10-10-2010, 09:00 PM

Not having a top 15 pick thing is way too early to determine. Remember Denver last year. They are actually better this year, but won like crazy out of the gate, then faded to oblivion. He will have competition next year.

whoaskew · 10-10-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Alex Smith sucks as bad as Cassel

Really?

Cassel has completed 16 or less completions in every game this season, and his highest completion percentage in a game this year is 59.3%.

Smith has completed 21 or more completions in every game this season, and his highest completion percentage in a game this year is 71.9%.

I think we could have used an extra 5 completions today, especially on the 4th and 2 today where Matt Castoff chose to throw to the guy triple covered 20 yards down field instead of throwing to the wide open running back standing 6 feet in front of him.

It looks to me like Cassel is the only one who sucks as bad as Cassel.

ILChief · 10-10-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I hope the 49'ers get sick of Alex Smith so we can pick him up for the following reasons:

1. I think he would be an upgrade over Cassell (who wouldn't?)

2. He should be cheap to sign (it seems everyone has gave up on him, so he shouldn't generate too much interest as a FA or cost to much in a trade)

3. He has a few years of starting experience (a rookie would likely take 3+ years to develop, and a free agent is more likely to make an immediate impact - consider Brees, Vick, Farve, McNabb, & Shaub)

4. He is still young enough to still be in the league in 10 years

A change of scenery might do Smith some good, and I think he would succeed under coaches like Haley and Weis.

you may want to re-think that

cardken · 10-10-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I hope the 49'ers get sick of Alex Smith so we can pick him up for the following reasons:

1. I think he would be an upgrade over Cassell (who wouldn't?)

2. He should be cheap to sign (it seems everyone has gave up on him, so he shouldn't generate too much interest as a FA or cost to much in a trade)

3. He has a few years of starting experience (a rookie would likely take 3+ years to develop, and a free agent is more likely to make an immediate impact - consider Brees, Vick, Farve, McNabb, & Shaub)

4. He is still young enough to still be in the league in 10 years

A change of scenery might do Smith some good, and I think he would succeed under coaches like Haley and Weis.

Perhaps you missed the 90's? But we've exceeded our number of San Francisco Reclamation projects in that decade, Thanks but no thanks.

beach tribe · 10-10-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

how else do .you make the playoffs when your QB blows bags of dicks. Are teams less of champions becsuse of how they won

Making the POs is NOT the goal. I want the trophy. There is only 1 every season.

**ShortRoundChief** · 10-10-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whoaskew

I hope the 49'ers get sick of Alex Smith so we can pick him up for the following reasons:

1. I think he would be an upgrade over Cassell (who wouldn't?)

2. He should be cheap to sign (it seems everyone has gave up on him, so he shouldn't generate too much interest as a FA or cost to much in a trade)

3. He has a few years of starting experience (a rookie would likely take 3+ years to develop, and a free agent is more likely to make an immediate impact - consider Brees, Vick, Farve, McNabb, & Shaub)

4. He is still young enough to still be in the league in 10 years

A change of scenery might do Smith some good, and I think he would succeed under coaches like Haley and Weis.

1. Wouldn't take much
2. They just paid cassell an assload of cash, I don't think they'd balk at a good prospect over cash, although I don't think AS is the answer

3. This is where I disagree, the formula for having a young qb and have success is to not have him put into positions as to where he's got to win the game. Basically what is being down with casell. Difference is we need a live arm. Cassell has not that.

4. age don't matter, maybe we can get Trent Green back

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