Breaking: Phillies to Sign Cliff Lee

['Hamas' Jenkins]

All the NL Pennants are belong to them.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by chefsos

Phils don't make the playoffs in 2012. Crazy? Lookee:

2008 Win WS
2009 Lose WS
2010 Lose NLCS
2011 Lose NLDS

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

Is Norv Turner managing the team or something?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Phillies, Spankees, and Red Sox all out before the LCS **** Yeah

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

They want to keep Brown in AAA this year from what I read last week. I really don't think their lineup is all that great to be honest. Rollins has fallen apart, Utley misses huge chunks of seasons each year and Howard had his lowest OBP in his career last year. Victorino is a decent role guy, the catcher can't hit and they likely are looking at a broken down Ibanez and a never was in Ben Franscico roaming the corner OF spots.

The rotatlon is all world, but not the best ever (like moron Phillie fans want to proclaim). Their undoing will be the lineup having major holes and the bullpen (on nights they are needed) being far from dominant.

And the lineup was most certainly their undoing despite adding Pence. The Phillies made a huge mistake in continuing to go with Ibanez over Dominic Brown all season, IMO. They didn't even go with a better hitter in Mayberry during the playoffs, either.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And the lineup was most certainly their undoing despite adding Pence. The Phillies made a huge mistake in continuing to go with Ibanez over Dominic Brown all season, IMO. They didn't even go with a better hitter in Mayberry during the playoffs, either.

Yep. Turned out to be right.

Howard may have torn his achillies, and Utley is always banged up.

They have literally no money to spend either.

They better hope Brown and all the AAA guys are ready to go or it's going to be much of the same next year.