Football ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs - Page 7

Ugly Duck · 07-05-2011, 12:04 PM

Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo:

1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list.

2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player.

3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player.

4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart.

5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league.

6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker.

7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves.

8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year.

9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem.

10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup.

11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve.

12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency.

13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011.

14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season.

15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player.

16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years.

17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready.

18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term.

19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move.

20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs

vailpass · 07-06-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

First to worst isn't enough separation?

First to worst in what? 4 turds in a bowl are still 4 turds. If that is all the higher your aspirations run then have at it.

vailpass · 07-06-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

You DO realize that you're using the same argument used by Chiefs fans in 2009 that KC was better than Denver because we raped your asses at the end of the year? Hell, and that game was in your house too. We have even more of a claim.

The teams aren't as close as you think. Trust me, I've been through these 2-win/4-win years. The sooner you admit to your team sucking, the easier it gets, and the more glorious their rise out of suckdom becomes.

Even now I'm very cautious about my confidence in the Chiefs. I really don't know if we have enough firepower to make it to .500 this year. We might not. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

I'm not arguing either team is good.
KC was 1-3 against Oak/Denver yet you want me to think they are appreciably better than either team?
The entire AFCW were varying degrees of bad last year. If that satisfies you then be my guest.

**Rausch** · 07-06-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

First to worst in what? 4 turds in a bowl are still 4 turds. If that is all the higher your aspirations run then have at it.

Did I miss something?

Am I not talking to a fan who watched his team go from WC to SB victory?

YOU COULDN'T WIN AS MANY GAMES AS WE LOST.

The idea that the Chiefs are "Turds in a bowl" is a lame attempt to drag us down to your level...

**RealSNR** · 07-06-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

I'm not arguing either team is good.
KC was 1-3 against Oak/Denver yet you want me to think they are appreciably better than either team?
The entire AFCW were varying degrees of bad last year. If that satisfies you then be my guest.

Sure. And Denver was worse than KC. Six games' worth to be exact.

You keep trying to trap me into saying "WOOOO!!!!! CHIEFS TO THE SUPER BOOOOOWWWLLL!" I'm not an idiot like Knowmo, so I suggest you find something better to do with your time.

syyrupp-mannn · 07-06-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He absolutely shut down Bowe when he was covering him last year. Champ is still a top 3 corner.

Perrish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Andre Goodman should be in the top in this list,

Get their dicks out of your mouth and look and see that they ****ing SUCK! Bailey sucks, Cox is young and is ok but not great goodman is old and cant cover the fast guys well so face it your teams secondary sucks! Your a broncos afn get off here this is chiefs territory

**Rausch** · 07-06-2011, 01:23 PM

SD is on the way down.

KC and Oakland (can't believe I'm saying this) are on the way up.

Denver is floundering. They appear to have no direction, no leadership, no plan...

milkman · 07-06-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by syyrupp-mannn

Get their dicks out of your mouth and look and see that they ****ing SUCK! Bailey sucks, Cox is young and is ok but not great goodman is old and cant cover the fast guys well so face it your teams secondary sucks! Your a broncos afn get off here this is chiefs territory

How pathetic does one have to be to actually compell me to want to defend Knowshit?

syyrupp-mannn · 07-06-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

How pathetic does one have to be to actually compell me to want to defend Knowshit?

Milkman your just as dumb as he is, look the broncos seconary SUCKS!

Ugly Duck · 07-06-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Do you see any flaws in (the Broncos)? Any at all?

The most important flaw in last season's Bronco team was letting the Panthers edge them out for the #1 overall. They cudda taken Cam Newton & then move Tebow to fullback.

milkman · 07-06-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by syyrupp-mannn

Milkman your just as dumb as he is, look the broncos seconary SUCKS!

My post has nothing to do with the quality, or lack thereof, of the Donkeys' secondary.

My post has to do with the quality, or absolute lack thereof, of the poster that I was responding to.

syyrupp-mannn · 07-06-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

My post has nothing to do with the quality, or lack thereof, of the Donkeys' secondary.

My post has to do with the quality, or absolute lack thereof, of the poster that I was responding to.

ok

LOCOChief · 07-06-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

My post has nothing to do with the quality, or lack thereof, of the Donkeys' secondary.

My post has to do with the quality, or absolute lack thereof, of the poster that I was responding to.

Another post not up to par for Mikman, amazing.

Hey milkman, milk this.

**Rausch** · 07-06-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

The most important flaw in last season's Bronco team was letting the Panthers edge them out for the #1 overall. They cudda taken Cam Newton & then move Tebow to fullback.

**Rausch** · 07-06-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief

Another post not up to par for Mikman, amazing.

Hey milkman, milk this.

You showed him...

**kysirsoze** · 07-06-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Our interior offensive line needs to step up so we can get that running game going.... I would say I am concerned about the defense but bringing back a healthy Dumervil and adding Von Miller, John Fox, and Dennis Allen will help out our defense tremendously.

Man, you just keep topping yourself. I'm impressed.

07-05-2011, 12:04 PM
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo: 1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list. 2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player. 3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player. 4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart. 5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league. 6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker. 7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves. 8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year. 9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem. 10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup. 11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve. 12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency. 13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011. 14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season. 15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player. 16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years. 17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready. 18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term. 19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move. 20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs
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