Chiefs cuts

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Roster cuts starting to trickle in





The list of confirmed roster cuts is at seven. Fullback Shane Bannon, tight end Charlie Gantt, offensive linemen Chris Harr and Mike Ingersoll, linebackers Pierre Walters and Micah Johnson and defensive back Reshard Langford have been informed they will be released.

Bannon was the Chiefs' seventh-round draft pick this year.

I'm aware of the report that Tony Moeaki is going on IR after injuring his knee against Green Bay. I'm waiting on



adamteicherAdam Teicher
Partial list of Chiefs cuts: http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1795



http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...4-731948e65e66

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

chiefs are at 53 not 52

Unless AP forgot to list the long snapper on their unofficial depth chart, I only count 52...

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Special teams don't matter much

Signed, 2010 Chargers

If our entire special teams play rests on Copper then were in more of a mess then I anticipated.

[Frankie]

Moeaki on IR, isn't there a new IR rule this year that makes it all season?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Moeaki on IR, isn't there a new IR rule this year that makes it all season?

IR has always been all season.

[booger]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Moeaki on IR, isn't there a new IR rule this year that makes it all season?

IR has always been for the rest of the season

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by booger

IR has always been for the rest of the season

Really? I thought it was 6 or 8 weeks minimum in the past. Maybe I'm thinking PUP or something.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Iconic

If our entire special teams play rests on Copper then were in more of a mess then I anticipated.

Zero punt return/kick return TDs allowed last year by the Chiefs ST.

There's a stat for ya. Would you rather have that or some shitty Richard Smith/JJ Moses dork who can't do any one thing well?

[The Bad Guy]

I love when noobs come out of the woodwork on days like today. There's a reason you lurk except for 2 times a year --- it's because you suck.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by SNR

Zero punt return/kick return TDs allowed last year by the Chiefs ST.

There's a stat for ya. Would you rather have that or some shitty Richard Smith/JJ Moses dork who can't do any one thing well?

Since you want to bring Stats into the argument... Well let's indeed talk about stats.

SPECIAL TEAM STATS:
Verran Tucker had 4 kick returns for 73 yards and a 18.3 average.
Terrance Copper had 2 kick returns for 26 yards and a 13.0 average.
Defensively they both recorded 14 total tackles with Verran having 12 tackles and 2 assist's and Copper having 11 tackles with 3 assists. Verran also had a fumble recovery... I recall you telling me that I talk straight from my anus when I said Tucker can replace Copper with so much more potential. He already kicked his ass in stats both receiving but also in special teams.

Verran>Copper. Get over it.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Sounds like he does "get by". The point is special teams has now become far less important. Which means Copper's value has decreased immensely. We haven't even seen what Tucker can do.

Miles Austin didn't do jack shit till his 4th NFL season and was literally handed the number one receiving spot with T.O's departure and Romo losing confidence in Williams. Your receiving corp will impact you more then a special teams god. Being good on special teams and sucking ass at your designated position is like being the king of shit. You're still shit. Copper can be replaced and that's that. Simply put, Special teams don't win superbowls.

It doesn't matter how you or I would build a team. It matters how Todd builds his team. He is following a long Parcells/Belichick tradition of having extra guys around as specialists on kick returns to set up blocks and collapse wedges. And Copper happens to be one of the best at what he does in the league. Cry all you want, but Copper's on this team for a reason, and he's not leaving now or even next year. He's going to be here for awhile. That's not what I call "getting by". He's a LOCK.

As for the rest of your nonsense about "we have to give Tucker a chance!" Players who are promising often show flashes of greatness... what they can do when everything goes right. Well, I've never seen Tucker flash greatness. Not once in preseason, training camp, or even last year when he started a bunch of games.

He's going to be great you say? Why have I never seen him abuse his man with a really crisp route? Why have I never seen him show blazing quickness down the middle or upfield? Why have I never seen him play well on special teams? Why have I never seen him show consistency in his hands?

As far as Miles Austin is concerned, he entered the league in 2006 as RETURNER. He made the team as RETURNER. And when he flashed greatness he did it as a RETURNER IN THE PLAYOFFS in 2006. By 2008 he worked his way up to 3rd on the depth chart.

The Cowboys never said, "Duuhhhrr... what if he ends up being really good? We need to keep him." They kept him because he served a role on the team. He actually did something.

Tucker ISN'T GOOD ON SPECIAL TEAMS. I don't know why you insist that he is. He's not. Look at all of his games. He's immature as a receiver.

He'll probably be back next year, dude. Because I'll bet you that there won't be a single goddamn team out there who will sign him. Not one.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SNR

It doesn't matter how you or I would build a team. It matters how Todd builds his team. He is following a long Parcells/Belichick tradition of having extra guys around as specialists on kick returns to set up blocks and collapse wedges. And Copper happens to be one of the best at what he does in the league. Cry all you want, but Copper's on this team for a reason, and he's not leaving now or even next year. He's going to be here for awhile. That's not what I call "getting by". He's a LOCK.

As for the rest of your nonsense about "we have to give Tucker a chance!" Players who are promising often show flashes of greatness... what they can do when everything goes right. Well, I've never seen Tucker flash greatness. Not once in preseason, training camp, or even last year when he started a bunch of games.

He's going to be great you say? Why have I never seen him abuse his man with a really crisp route? Why have I never seen him show blazing quickness down the middle or upfield? Why have I never seen him play well on special teams? Why have I never seen him show consistency in his hands?

As far as Miles Austin is concerned, he entered the league in 2006 as RETURNER. He made the team as RETURNER. And when he flashed greatness he did it as a RETURNER IN THE PLAYOFFS in 2006. By 2008 he worked his way up to 3rd on the depth chart.

The Cowboys never said, "Duuhhhrr... what if he ends up being really good? We need to keep him." They kept him because he served a role on the team. He actually did something.

Tucker ISN'T GOOD ON SPECIAL TEAMS. I don't know why you insist that he is. He's not. Look at all of his games. He's immature as a receiver.

He'll probably be back next year, dude. Because I'll bet you that there won't be a single goddamn team out there who will sign him. Not one.

I think in your zeal to defend Copper, you have gone overboard in lambasting Tucker.

Tucker did show flashes as a receiver, and he might one day contribute to a team, maybe even KC.

I get why Copper is on the team, and have no problem with that.

But Tucker does appear to have some upside as a receiver.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by milkman

I think in your zeal to defend Copper, you have gone overboard in lambasting Tucker.

Tucker did show flashes as a receiver, and he might one day contribute to a team, maybe even KC.

I get why Copper is on the team, and have no problem with that.

But Tucker does appear to have some upside as a receiver.

I hope he reads my post, comes back next year, and proves me wrong.

Until then, he's not the best option we have at that last receiver spot. Maybe if/when Urban gets injured like he always does we'll give him a call.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by SNR

I hope he reads my post, comes back next year, and proves me wrong.

Until then, he's not the best option we have at that last receiver spot. Maybe if/when Urban gets injured like he always does we'll give him a call.

Tucker's special teams stats are better then Coppers. Just like his receiving stats... How is he not the best option for our last receiver spot. I don't even mind keeping Copper but Colbert over Tucker is just blasphemy.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Tucker's special teams stats are better then Coppers. Just like his receiving stats... How is he not the best option for our last receiver spot. I don't even mind keeping Copper but Colbert over Tucker is just blasphemy.

I'm going to tell you what I say to everyone that brings stats to an argument.

Stats mean jack.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm going to tell you what I say to everyone that brings stats to an argument.

Stats mean jack.

I'm not sure there's any other way to judge a special teams player. I mean I agree with that argument myself. I shrug stats of when debating about Cassel. But for a SpecialTeamer that's about all you'd go of off I'd assume.