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Old 07-19-2012, 10:53 PM   #1
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What difference would it make if they traded him now vs later? He's not a player you are hoping breaks out and you can sell high midseason.
we're talking about to Brooklyn. it is ****ing impossible for him to go there.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #2
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we're talking about to Brooklyn. it is ****ing impossible for him to go there.
Nothing is impossible.

If they want him and he wants to go there, they will find a way to get him there with DWill and Joe Johnson.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #3
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Just checking. If we are referring to his physicality on the floor then I'd say he's soft. Just who he is. He's a small dude thats not going to be bruising people. Doesn't stop him from dominating though.
That's something I wouldn't argue. He's physically weak. However, his job is to score not push people around. He's not mentally soft at all. In fact, he's ice ****ing cold.

You could say he needs to be more aggressive at times, needs to create his own shot, needs to develop a post game fine. Those points are fair.

The fact is he has shown he can dominate games. He has shown he can be the leader of a team and take them a step further every year. He has shown he can be clutch. None of that tells me he's not capable of winning a championship or his game is soft.

Billay's arguments are just pure non-sense.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:56 PM   #4
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The Lakers should just pull out of talks too. This is a ridiculous, never-ending process that the Lakers are giving up the best chip out of any team by far to Orlando.

It's obvious Hennigan wants to clear space, get younger and get picks. I doubt that all 3 will happen. At one point, he's going to have to decide if he wants the space and the picks because the young prospects aren't going to come with the other 2.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:59 PM   #5
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The Lakers should just pull out of talks too. This is a ridiculous, never-ending process that the Lakers are giving up the best chip out of any team by far to Orlando.

It's obvious Hennigan wants to clear space, get younger and get picks. I doubt that all 3 will happen. At one point, he's going to have to decide if he wants the space and the picks because the young prospects aren't going to come with the other 2.
You are probably right. I really wish all NBA teams would pull out of talks with him. He deserves to sit in Orlando or sit out.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:02 PM   #6
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You are probably right. I really wish all NBA teams would pull out of talks with him. He deserves to sit in Orlando or sit out. He can go to the Nets next year and play for shit if he wants to go there so bad.
The Orlando GM overplayed his hand big time. He's gotta put someone in the stands to watch or that arena will be a ghost town. You can't sell a fan base on cap relief and #1 picks.

He's trying to duplicate OKC and that just isn't realistic nor practical for a first-time GM. Those things happen once in a blue moon in sports.

Bynum would absolutely re-up in Orlando. Bynum wants to be the man and wants max dollars. If traded there, Orlando can easily give him the most after next season.

It's just a ****ing circus that has to end. Howard has ruined himself in this process.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:04 PM   #7
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It's just a ****ing circus that has to end. Howard has ruined himself in this process.
I Howard becomes a Laker and plays well, all of the media hate will vanish like a fart in the wind.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:06 PM   #8
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I Howard becomes a Laker and plays well, all of the media hate will vanish like a fart in the wind.
He doesn't even have media hate right now, which is nuts.

However, there's tons of fan hate, which he won't shake being a Laker.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:20 PM   #9
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He doesn't even have media hate right now, which is nuts.

However, there's tons of fan hate, which he won't shake being a Laker.
The media is a trip, hate kobe no matter what, love LeBron no matter what. Fans, especially internationally, are completely different no matter how mcuh the media tries to control them.
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Sportscenter would be a hour of LeBron/Kobe crucifixion if they were doing the same. Howard seems to have the media on his side for some reason.

It's no big deal wanting to go to greener pastures, but make up your ****ing mind already. Had he kept this shit out of the media Orlando could have struck a better deal for everyone.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #11
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Sportscenter would be a hour of LeBron/Kobe crucifixion if they were doing the same. Howard seems to have the media on his side for some reason.

It's no big deal wanting to go to greener pastures, but make up you ****ing mind already. Had he kept this shit out of the media Orlando could have struck a better deal for everyone.
The media has been on LeBron's knob through everything. I have to disagree with you there
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:30 PM   #12
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The media has been on LeBron's knob through everything. I have to disagree with you there
Lately they have been. LeBron has taken plenty of heat. Kobe gets plenty of praise at times as well.

Point is they would both be getting killed for what Howard is doing.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:34 PM   #13
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Lately they have been. LeBron has taken plenty of heat. Kobe gets plenty of praise at times as well.

Point is they would both be getting killed for what Howard is doing.
Well, LeBron deserves every bit of heat that he gets. People hate Kobe because he's good.

I hate LeBron as much as the next guy. But Howard is as big if not a bigger piece of shit.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:03 AM   #14
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no GM/team is dumb enough to take Brook Lopez and a 60 million dollar contract.

That would be murdering a franchise, especially if it has no star players. That contract only fits on the Nets because the Nets also have 3 other good players on high contracts. Brook Lopez being a 60 million dollar centerpiece is putting a franchise in hell and is not a building block. Nets would be hard to shed that contract and make room for Dwight.

Unless Baby Dwight plans to play for a cheap contract on the Nets, there is no way his dream of being on Jay Z's team ever comes true. That Nets team is pretty much set and locked in for a couple years as is. Dwights just going to have to man up and pick another ****ing team, whether in a trade or as a FA. He's just being selfish and is too dumb to realize the impossible is the only scenario he wants, and he pissed it away by doing that stupid honor thing with the Magic in March.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:35 AM   #15
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no GM/team is dumb enough to take Brook Lopez and a 60 million dollar contract.

That would be murdering a franchise, especially if it has no star players. That contract only fits on the Nets because the Nets also have 3 other good players on high contracts. Brook Lopez being a 60 million dollar centerpiece is putting a franchise in hell and is not a building block. Nets would be hard to shed that contract and make room for Dwight.

Unless Baby Dwight plans to play for a cheap contract on the Nets, there is no way his dream of being on Jay Z's team ever comes true. That Nets team is pretty much set and locked in for a couple years as is. Dwights just going to have to man up and pick another ****ing team, whether in a trade or as a FA. He's just being selfish and is too dumb to realize the impossible is the only scenario he wants, and he pissed it away by doing that stupid honor thing with the Magic in March.
I'm sure he has realizedthat he cant really go where he wanted too. I think he was scared to go to the lakers at first because of the pressure. LAKERS HAVE HAD SOME LEGENDARY centers and to have to follow that is tough. Then Shaw going from Orlando to LA and winning 3 chips. He has to do similar or its a failure.

Anyways its in his best interests to wait tip his contract is up and get that 5 year instead of that 3 year.
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