Chiefs Andy Reid - Page 7

RunKC · 11-06-2012, 10:06 PM

Get him Clark.

Bring in the walrus!

But seriously, he's getting the shaft in Philly. He's the best coach of the realistic options who proven the most.

**Rausch** · 08-28-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

That's honestly irrelevant and isn't going to result in a championship.

For Reid and Dorsey not to look dumb, the 5 years of Alex Smith we're getting has to result in a better shot at a championship than the entire careers of EJ and Geno.

Alex and all our free agents were not game changers - they were immediate upgrades possible due to unused cap.

Just like Smith isn't the long term answer at QB the same is also not the long term answer at CB.

It's an upgrade - we had the cap - we're one step better at that position...

Hammock Parties · 08-28-2013, 08:23 AM

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So there again you come back to the elite or bust talk. If either of those guys become elite, we ****ed up. If they become solid nfl starters? Nah.

If they are better than Alex we ****ed up. We don't know how good Alex is going to be.

Jury is out. You cannot sit here and say "oh we didn't trade too much for Alex, wait and see" and then say "X rookie QB wasn't worth the pick." Double standard.

O.city · 08-28-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

If they are better than Alex we ****ed up. We don't know how good Alex is going to be.

Jury is out. You cannot sit here and say "oh we didn't trade too much for Alex, wait and see" and then say "X rookie QB wasn't worth the pick." Double standard.

So if they're better than Alex, but still not franchise qbs is it a mistake?

**BossChief** · 08-28-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So if they're better than Alex, but still not franchise qbs is it a mistake?

Jeez. Listen to yourself

**Rausch** · 08-28-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

If they are better than Alex we ****ed up. We don't know how good Alex is going to be.

Yes, we do...

O.city · 08-28-2013, 09:26 AM

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Jeez. Listen to yourself

Same as the Alex smith better than bad doesn't equal good sentiment, just because those guys are better, doesn't make tem good enough. Maybe they will be, maybe they won't be.

But the qb guru head coach we wanted and the gm we all wanted thought they weren't or wouldn't be, so until we know one way or another I'm not gonna bitch about it.

Again, if we're elite or shit, Super Bowl or bust, I'd prefer them to go with the guy with the highest upside. They seem to have done that, so I'll sit back and let it play out.

**Rausch** · 08-28-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Again, if we're elite or shit, Super Bowl or bust, I'd prefer them to go with the guy with the highest upside. They seem to have done that, so I'll sit back and let it play out.

They went with the best upgrade option out there.

He's not the guy with the best upside...

O.city · 08-28-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

They went with the best upgrade option out there.

He's not the guy with the best upside...

Talking about Bray.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-28-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

For their careers no. For this upcoming season? I think that's fairly obvious

I think it's fairly obvious what we can expect from Axl. Middle of the road results overall.

**BossChief** · 08-28-2013, 10:22 AM

Thinking that Brays upside is greater than Geno or EJs is baseless.

Both of those guys are accomplished passers and have a secondary weapon that Bray will NEVER have...legs.

Also, to say Geno or EJs upsides are that of Alex Smith is also baseless. EJ is far more athletic and is just as smart and has a better arm.

Geno has a better arm, more mobility and throws a beautiful deep ball (which Alex doesnt)...his problem is dealing with adversity.

It's ****ing straight up silly that Alex Smith has taken on this god like figure with some of you. The guy is a below average starter that will need to play the best ball of his entire career to justify the compensation given up to get him.

And no, Alex isn't as good as any guy we could have gotten with the pick...if we traded from our second rounder and used next years second...that gets us up to the middle of the first round.

Just because guys wear a KC logo doesn't mean they automatically are gonna be better.

Most of the time, history shows it's the other way around

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-28-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Thinking that Brays upside is greater than Geno or EJs is baseless.

Both of those guys are accomplished passers and have a secondary weapon that Bray will NEVER have...legs.

Also, to say Geno or EJs upsides are that of Alex Smith is also baseless. EJ is far more athletic and is just as smart and has a better arm.

Geno has a better arm, more mobility and throws a beautiful deep ball (which Alex doesnt)...his problem is dealing with adversity.

It's ****ing straight up silly that Alex Smith has taken on this god like figure with some of you. The guy is a below average starter that will need to play the best ball of his entire career to justify the compensation given up to get him.

And no, Alex isn't as good as any guy we could have gotten with the pick...if we traded from our second rounder and used next years second...that gets us up to the middle of the first round.

Just because guys wear a KC logo doesn't mean they automatically are gonna be better.

Most of the time, history shows it's the other way around

That'll leave a mark.

O.city · 08-28-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Thinking that Brays upside is greater than Geno or EJs is baseless.

Both of those guys are accomplished passers and have a secondary weapon that Bray will NEVER have...legs.

Also, to say Geno or EJs upsides are that of Alex Smith is also baseless. EJ is far more athletic and is just as smart and has a better arm.

Geno has a better arm, more mobility and throws a beautiful deep ball (which Alex doesnt)...his problem is dealing with adversity.

It's ****ing straight up silly that Alex Smith has taken on this god like figure with some of you. The guy is a below average starter that will need to play the best ball of his entire career to justify the compensation given up to get him.

And no, Alex isn't as good as any guy we could have gotten with the pick...if we traded from our second rounder and used next years second...that gets us up to the middle of the first round.

Just because guys wear a KC logo doesn't mean they automatically are gonna be better.

Most of the time, history shows it's the other way around

Couple things.

I dot know which geno you watched, but he doesn't have a better arm and he doesn't throw a better deep ball. That's just blatantly wrong.

The second we move this year for smith, was essentially used on a qb better right now than any qb available. If its a second next year, he played well and likely had a lot to do with us winning more than 8 games. WS not hiding behind a run game here, look at the pre season games.

You need to move past the emotion of this whole thing. Geno isn't te prospect your building him up to be, he doesn't currently have the things you say he does. That's not to say he won't ever, but at this point he doesn't. At this point, his upside is Alex smith.

Further more, you haven't refuted anything I've said in this thread and you continue to look past anything relevant anyone says on the subject.

**Rausch** · 08-28-2013, 10:56 AM

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Thinking that Brays upside is greater than Geno or EJs is baseless.

I don't think Bray will ever amount to whatever EJ or Geno do.

If I could compare any college QB to Ryan Leaf it would be Bray.

His immaturity is not a question it's ****ing NOTORIOUS.

That said he's a natural. He's born to play the game but he's an insufferable prick. In combine interviews guys that played with him talked him down.

That said I'd draft Leaf in a heart beat if he was there in the 7th round...

Mr. Laz · 08-28-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I don't think Bray will ever amount to whatever EJ or Geno do.

If I could compare any college QB to Ryan Leaf it would be Bray.

His immaturity is not a question it's ****ing NOTORIOUS.

That said he's a natural. He's born to play the game but he's an insufferable prick. In combine interviews guys that played with him talked him down.

That said I'd draft Leaf in a heart beat if he was there in the 7th round...

i am hoping that sitting on the bench for a year or 2 will crush that ego a bit and force him to grow up.

ChiefaRoo · 08-28-2013, 11:03 AM

Alex Smith will = Trent Green during his good years. Lookit, he's more athletic and has a similar arm and playing style. Both guys play very smart. KC can win with this guy just like the Bucs did with Dilfer who had less upside that either Trent or Alex IMO.

What KC needs is to win (Tradition) and continue to fill out the team. Need another stud receiver for starters.

Even though KC is a young team the window is going to start closing on Tamba and DJ in the next two to three years.

I think Smith is a winner and is capable of hitting the 25 yard skinny post. I know he dinked and dunked in SF but I think he has athletic upside that he hasn't shown yet.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1775912	Thinking that Brays upside is greater than Geno or EJs is baseless. Both of those guys are accomplished passers and have a secondary weapon that Bray will NEVER have...legs. Also, to say Geno or EJs upsides are that of Alex Smith is also baseless. EJ is far more athletic and is just as smart and has a better arm. Geno has a better arm, more mobility and throws a beautiful deep ball (which Alex doesnt)...his problem is dealing with adversity. It's ****ing straight up silly that Alex Smith has taken on this god like figure with some of you. The guy is a below average starter that will need to play the best ball of his entire career to justify the compensation given up to get him. And no, Alex isn't as good as any guy we could have gotten with the pick...if we traded from our second rounder and used next years second...that gets us up to the middle of the first round. Just because guys wear a KC logo doesn't mean they automatically are gonna be better. Most of the time, history shows it's the other way around __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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ChiefaRoo MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin,TX Casino cash: $3927505	Alex Smith will = Trent Green during his good years. Lookit, he's more athletic and has a similar arm and playing style. Both guys play very smart. KC can win with this guy just like the Bucs did with Dilfer who had less upside that either Trent or Alex IMO. What KC needs is to win (Tradition) and continue to fill out the team. Need another stud receiver for starters. Even though KC is a young team the window is going to start closing on Tamba and DJ in the next two to three years. I think Smith is a winner and is capable of hitting the 25 yard skinny post. I know he dinked and dunked in SF but I think he has athletic upside that he hasn't shown yet.
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